I live Montreal, Canada. There's tons of American influence here (music wise). ALthough much different from the rest of canada cuz we speak french also. Hip Hop is the mainstream music today. I agree with the thread starter that Americans (and lots of canadian) kids are way too image conscious. EDM is not what most people listen and most kids stick with hip hop to be part of a certain crowd. I know one thing though, A LOT of hip hop listeners shift towards EDM as they come out of their teens. AT a certain point in your life, you dont want to hear how about what (most) rappers have to say anymore, you just want to party and enjoy the music and have a good vibe. EDM will get big in America. It's big everywhere else except here. But its time is coming.

I think it is more the rules that clubs must follow that hinders EDM's success rather than the vain kids you see in high schools. Most places your parties have to end at 2am. That and there are like 5 huge companies that control almost all of the media here. Only a select few have the media outlet and the people involved with EDM have less of a voice because of that. That and the whole drug thing, America is much less tolerant of drug use than alot of other countries, and most of the authorities are well aware of the connection between drugs and EDM, so they stifle EDM because they want to reduce the drug influences. I also beleive that adults encourage children to prevent EDM from becoming a cool thing, there seems to be a lot of people instigating others to bash dance music.

You are right though I don't think EDM will ever break america, society is just structured to oppose it. I think the big cities do a bit better because there are so many people that they cannot be controlled so easily.

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Originally posted by sw1 It's the lack of lyrics. Americans need vocals to sing along to, and EDM doesn't quite fit the bill.

i've heard this aswell... i have friend who told me that his friend was in america in some club and then they played some "britney techno remix" or something like that, and everybody got excited and jumped on the floor to sing along

..fucking horrible if u ask me

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lol @ non-americans defining the american public

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Originally posted by djpaulc After reading the post about Tiesto in America i decided to set up a similar post. I don't mean to generalise or offend anyone in here but from the media we get over here about america and its teenage music buying public, most of these teenagers seem like tossers. From all of the american shows on MTV, VH1 etc. I have never ever seen a nation dominated by such an annoying bunch of style and image obsessed teenagers. I don't know whether the american teenage public are actually like this but from what i have seen, there are 3 main groups of teenager in america - the 'home-boy' type for the lads, the 'oh my god' type for the girls and then the goths. They are all caught up in an image obsessed nation and feel that they have to be the same as everyone else. Firstly for the boys, they all seem to have the 'I'm a rapper' metality. Its grand that black culture i dominated by this but white culture as well?! White teenagers talking like they are all from the bronx saying things like 'Holla', 'Its your boy' etc...etc...et-fucking-cetra!! Using their hands to help explain what they are saying, as if they were rapping! Using lingo such as 'rims', 'hoes' and 'bling bling'. In one way, it shows the dominance of rap and r'n'b in todays world but seriously, it is getting out of hand. For the girlies, it seems to be either the rap lingo or the 'oh my god' style. I can only pressume the 'oh my god' style has come from the pop culture i.e Britney, Christina etc, such programmes as 'Friends' and films like 'Clueless'(ironically titled), where they constantly put the word 'like' between every word. They dress like their fav pop star, dye their hair like them and their is actually a programme over here where some of them actually pay thousands on surgery to be a replica of them!! These 2 stereotypes together with the goths is the very reason why EDM will never, ever, ever become mainstream. There is no EDM lingo for them to talk, no EDM style clothes for them to wear and thankfully no general EDM image for them to imatate. Most of the americans who i have ever met haven't been like this but it is still the way that teenage america is portayed over here, so imo EDM will never take off there. Is it actual like this and do any of u think that EDM can take off over there?

Interesting analysis. You'll definitely find a decent percentage of Americans who fit the mold that you're talking about.

Now, aren't all Irish people drunks who like to fight after soccer games or are members of the IRA who fight over which branch of Christianity they think everyone should follow. And everyone's always after "yer pot o'gold" (or in America's marketing world, your Lucky Charms)

Stereotypes are fun, right?

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Now, aren't all Irish people drunks who like to fight after soccer games or are members of the IRA who fight over which branch of Christianity they think everyone should follow. And everyone's always after "yer pot o'gold" (or in America's marketing world, your Lucky Charms) Stereotypes are fun, right?

LOL..you beat me to it

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Originally posted by lex400sc lol @ non-americans defining the american public

I was just thinking that..


"I heard from a friend who has an American friend and they say that in America" so different from what I'm used to..

"Over in Europe, they have 150hp Pumpe Duse TDI engines.. we only get 100hp ones here!!"

Crazy world!!!

I have been to the states a bunch of times. I am bombarded with american media all the time, being just north of the border in Canada. There is this huge marketing machine in America and I don't think EDM fits into it. Some poeple from the states think the music is "gay", "lame" because it hasn't been marketed as cool. Its not as bad in large centres, but I think that if people where fed EDM 24/7 on major music channels there would be more iterest. It seems that whatever is on the radio or on T.V. is easiest to receive so why bother with any other kind of music.

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Originally posted by TrancEuphoria I have been to the states a bunch of times. I am bombarded with american media all the time, being just north of the border in Canada. There is this huge marketing machine in America and I don't think EDM fits into it. Some poeple from the states think the music is "gay", "lame" because it hasn't been marketed as cool. Its not as bad in large centres, but I think that if people where fed EDM 24/7 on major music channels there would be more iterest. It seems that whatever is on the radio or on T.V. is easiest to receive so why bother with any other kind of music.

edm hasn't penetrated the mainstream in america because there's virtually no room for advertising and if you can't get several big corporate sponsorships, your 'project' won't survive a fiscal quarter when you already have a cheap cookie-cutter cash cow in pop music. mega corporations like clear channel don't care about good taste, they care about good money, and if that means playing ashlee simpson 8 times a day, that's what they're gonna do. it's these corporations that really have control of what mainstreamers like. until someone develops a creative way to make money with edm, you're only gonna hear about it from these guys anecdotally.

there's several other factors too. cultural masculinity is much higher in america than pretty much all other nations. if the music isn't centered around money, drugs, violence, and bitches, it won't appeal to society's lowest common denominator. teenagers are also the highest targeted consumers in the massmedia, and most people don't develop a taste for electronic until they're 21 and been to a decent club with good acts.

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holy shit man.. whoever on page 3 said the thing about the "america sucks at clubbing" shirt.. i would buy that.

who cares if it conquers the whole continent or not, you guys still get plenty of good shows. Isnt it enough?