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Originally posted by Estella Hey thanks! I appreciate that. I've just listened to Shy fx - This Style Dillinja - Nasty Ways (Shy fx mix) and still heard that foundation jazz step. Excuse me lack of technical language, but the background underlying sycopated beat.

No problem, everyone has to start somewhere.

I'm not too good at this either myself bro, I just started (well kind of) getting into this. So I myself am just learning and trying to understand hehe.

Found another Raiden set.
http://dl.dnbmuc.de/sound/Raiden_-_...ns_19102005.mp3
01. Prode - Sun Influences
02. Dom + Gridlok - Hooked
03. ? - ?
04. ? - ?
05. DK8 - Murder Was The Bass (Raiden RMX)
06. Raiden + Propaganda - Machinesoul
07. Raiden/Propaganda - ? SIIIIIICK
08. Raiden - Chernobyl 4
09. Prode - Borer
10. Lethal + Khanage - Jawbreaker
11. The Sect - Nerve Attacks KILLA
12. Propaganda - The Real
13. Propaganda - Poin Of Contact
14. Temper D and K-Fire - all your bass are belong to us
15. Raiden - Ratchet
16. Panacea - Chrome VIP

Enjoy.

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Another set by Noisia this time...

Noisia-Guest mix on 1Xtra
http://drumbass.com.br/audio/mp3/sets/Noisia-The_Mix_Show_on_1Xtra_Guest_Mix.mp3
01 [00:00] Noisia & Phace - Homeworld
02 [03:46] Noisia & Mayhem - Lockjaw
03 [08:14] Drifter - Come True
04 [11:57] Noisia - Concussion
05 [13:51] Noisia & Phace & Stu - Dead Air
06 [16:48] Drifter - Sunstreak
07 [18:38] Drifter - Leola
08 [22:00] Matrix & Fierce - Tightrope
09 [24:36] Noisia - Cold Veins
10 [28:42] Noisia & Black Sun Empire - Untitled
11 [30:34] Noisia - Sandworm
12 [32:48] Noisia - The Distance
13 [35:46] Noisia & Pacific - On Your Mind
14 [38:22] Duo Infernale - Playing Games (Drifter Remix)
15 [41:45] Silent Witness & Break - Dialing Out
>>> [44:14] Hustle - Athletics Lekker
16 [44:28] Noisia & Bad Company UK - Meditation
17 [48:45] Noisia - Close To Me (Matrix Remix)
18 [52:40] Konflict - Messiah (Noisia Remix)

Check out this URL: http://dnbnation.com/viewtopic.php?t=5486&

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Originally posted by r5a If any of the mods see a problem this, let me know and I'll take it down.

i for one do not

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I concur!

hahahhhoh lord. I've never heard anything like that. I mean. I can't stand it. But it just kinda lures you in because your in awe or scared. or digusted. but more shocked. It's a metal clanking, nose bleeding nightmare. Where is the bass? and .. hearing that live..? It's paranoia!

Here's two tunes I can recommend:

Enduser - Things To Do In the Queen City
Enduser - Dul M Remix

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Originally posted by Estella Enduser - Things To Do In the Queen City Enduser - Dul M Remix

I second that one. But those are more Drill 'N Bass than Drum 'N Bass. And Dul M Remix is by Line 47...

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Addy fo SHADDY ! hiccup, KA pladdy.

Check out

Omni Trio
Pendulum
Concord Dawn
Ill.Skillz
High Contrast
Black Sun Empire
Counterstrike
John B
Muffler
Raiden
di.fm's dnb channel

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Originally posted by Estella So the "post-techstep" is the jazz element that Reece added? Because the majority of ALL the DnB I've listened to reminded me of jazz. How could the have been so influential?

Well, I guess it's safe to say that Alex has influenced a ton of today's producers, since they were all listening to the old Metalheadz records at home at the time Reece was active. And while their take on drum n bass might be completely different (neurofunk, jump up, techstep), you can still hear his influences on the records coming out today.

Some examples: that "buzzing" bass sound (Concord Dawn - Morning Light has it for instance) that so many drum n bass records use nowadays is very often referred to as the Reece-bass, even though he got the idea for it from an old house record by The Reese Project, which consists of Kevin Saunderson among others. There is also the Reece-break, which is used equally often (Check Dom & Roland - Imagination and Die - Clear Skyz), and then there's the sampling of real instruments etc. etc.

Reece's influence is still largely present, even if jazzstep is gone by now.

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Perhaps this Alex Reece guy fused Jazz and DnB, but he didn't introduce African Syncopation into either. I still say it's because of Jazz and DnB's common stylistic origins. Something like this...

DnB/Jungle >> Reggae >> African Carribbean Music/Jazz >> African Cultural Music

>> = influenced by


Sure Jungle was influenced by other music like Hardcore Breakbeat, but that's not where the syncopation comes from.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil Perhaps this Alex Reece guy fused Jazz and DnB, but he didn't introduce African Syncopation into either. I still say it's because of Jazz and DnB's common stylistic origins. Something like this... DnB/Jungle >> Reggae >> African Carribbean Music/Jazz >> African Cultural Music >> = influenced by Sure Jungle was influenced by other music like Hardcore Breakbeat, but that's not where the syncopation comes from.

Of course, Reece didn't think of the syncopation on his own, so I'm sure those genres influenced him plenty. However, he was one of the first, if not the first, to actually put jazz concepts such as its rhythms and its instruments into practice as far as drum n bass is concerned. And since his records had such an impact, I'd say that it is obvious why the syncopation of today's drum n bass reminds people of jazz, namely because Alex introduced it to drum n bass early on.

That being said, it's probably not wise to understimate the ragga massive either, who probably told Alex to go fuck himself when he started having beef with Goldie (Alex is white).

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Originally posted by Kakoroto Of the DnB that I do listen to its usually one of these Rawthang Black Sun Empire Dieselboy

plus one for the BSE

Panacea, Kirby, Needle Sharing, Renegade, Exile, Technical Itch, The Cartel, Capoeria...

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I like distorted minds.. he/they wtvr are pretty dope.

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