If u go to a muslim country, the Muslim religious dates are significatn...go to a country such as India, all major religions (ie Muslim, Hindu, christian) are significant and accepted by all.

the point of this thread is not to favour one religion over another but rather to respect and celebrate the major religion's days of observation by leaving them as what they should be called.

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i saw a thing on holiday trees earlier this week..i almost fell off my chair...stfu...holiday trees.

Later on that night (i forget what show i was watching) something political, and the reporter and interviewe(sp) both said Merry Christmas at the end. None of this Happy Holidays bs.


fuck you! Merry Christmas! I havent been to church in years and dont plan on going but I still see it as Christmas.

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Originally posted by Euphorica I havent been to church in years and dont plan on going but I still see it as Christmas.

ur going to hell....


u PAGAN!!!!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Hopefully others will follow the lead. Enough of the sanitization. This is Canada, not greyville. Multiculturalism is about celebration of all cultures, not hiding them under the rug.

Booyah, +111111111111111111

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Never in my life have i seen so much outrage over holiday trees and seasons greetings as i have this year. I think the silent majority has finally had enough and is not afraid to speak out after years of being bullied into holiday sanitization. I opened the newspaper the other day and i found a zellers ad. Not only did it say "merry christmas" but it talked about the joy of kids opening their presents from santa "on the day jesus christ was born". i think i will be shopping at zellars this year. I will NOT be shopping at Eatons centre which is featuring a Holiday sale and a holiday tree.

I fully agree with you there.

while I accept that some people treat this as nothing more than a holiday (which is fine), Christmas IS, by definition, a Christian holiday. Refering to Christmas and removing all religious references is kind of stupid (not to mention offensive to Christians, I'm sure).

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Originally posted by MarkT Christmas IS, by definition, a Christian holiday. Refering to Christmas and removing all religious references is kind of stupid (not to mention offensive to Christians, I'm sure).

It is also a civil holiday (by way of it's inclusion into statutory law), therefore even void of any religious context there is a holiday on December 25th and it is called CHRISTMAS in this country.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Because christmas is the majority and is a founding tradition in our country. Thats why. If people who came here werent prepared to accept that. They shouldnt have come here.

wow is that an ignorant statement...you never cease to amaze....

I agree that there is a secular side to this issue (i.e. the stat holiday)...I just find it problematic that there are those who seek to remove all sense of religion from the holiday.

You have a clear right to not celebrate the Christian holiday of Christmas...but for long-standing, established businesses to actively remove that facet of the holiday season from commerical advertising smacks of misuided political correctness and is likely just their attempt to appeal to more customers (which is their perogative, of course) during a time of year that makes or breaks many retailers.

Given that, I'd not begrudge anyone who chose to boycott stores who take that approach during this time of year... because there's nothing wrong or politically incorrect with acknowledging the *actual* meaning of the holiday season while remaining conscious of the fact that not all of your customers are Christian.

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Originally posted by JRinger wow is that an ignorant statement...you never cease to amaze....

How is that ignorant?

Im willing to accomodate newcomers as long as they are willing to accomodate me as well. Its a 2 way street. If you dont like the traditions here and cant respect them, then i cant respect you.

Simple.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 How is that ignorant

It's ignorant b/c you're assuming that everyone who doesn't recognize Christmas "came here". Millions of second, third and fourth generation Canadians of many different faiths didn't "choose" to come here -- they were born here. But, of course, you knew all this already and chose to post your sweeping statement anyways just to stir the pot a bit.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Notwithstanding your antecdote regarding the oath to the Queen, by and large it is not immigrants or even the non-christian population that are precipitating the protest against Christian symbolism or tradition present in the state. This is largely being done by groups comprised mainly of Christian or formerly Christian middle class citizens that are fearful that we may offend people through these traditions and symbols. Please do not blame the immigrant population, they are not responsible for this.

and it's precisely these people (some immigrants included of course...let's be fair) who make me sick to my stomach.

In school, we used to have Christmas plays...now it's "Winter Wonderland" or some crap like that so as not to "offend" anyone. It's ridiculous.....we're so busy pandering to everybody in this country that we've forgotten our roots. I'm not Christian or religious in any way but I still accept the fact that the virtues of Christianity has helped make Canada the rest of the western world what it is today (ie the most successful, attracting people from all over the rest of the world).

So everybody should just SHUT UP. It's MERRY CHRISTMAS, not HAPPY HOLIDAYS or WARMEST WISHES (as seen on the tim horton's cups). If you dont' celebrate Christmas, that's fine but don't expect the majority of the country to give it up because it goes against your religious convictions. And all the bleeding hearts need to stop worrying about how all these minorities "feel" all the time.

The line must be drawn somewhere....and it's a bit late in coming in my opinion. I've heard many people bitching about this sort of thing and I dont' blame them.

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