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Originally posted by Peter K find me footage of maradona or pele doing things with a ball that ronaldinho can do

Seriously is this whole thread an early April fool joke or something?

Ronny is a godlike player, perhaps the most skillful I've seen so far (in my lifetime), but he scores an average of maybe 10 goals per year or something doesn't he?

I know thats a fair return for a midfielder, and I know he creates at least that many per season, but its hardly "OMFTIJ" is it?

He's 25 and still has plenty of time to win European cups etc, but I think its disrespectful and foolish to be saying "he's the best player ever" right now.

I know the game's changed so much etc, but honestly would you 6 people who have voted yes on this topic, take him right now over Pele/Diego at their peak?

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Originally posted by Peter K find me footage of maradona or pele doing things with a ball that ronaldinho can do

Doing ball tricks doesn't make you the greatest player ever. Besides, during Pele's era and Maradona's era the television coverage wasn't as extensive as it is now with dozens of cameras at every game. It's a bit unfair to say that Ronaldinho is the greatest since there are lots of clips of him doing crazy stuff but not as many for Pele and Maradona.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 Just because he does elasticos and whatever fancy tricks doesn't mean he's the best player all-time. When he wins a world cup by himself like Pelé or Maradona i'll rate him on the same level.

I'm sure he will do that but just in his defence, dont think pele had to play as many matches in a season like Ronaldinho before he went to the WC.

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Originally posted by Peter K find me footage of maradona or pele doing things with a ball that ronaldinho can do

I hate negative posts, but I'm sorry but you're stupid. Very stupid. I think a five year-old knows more about soccer than you. Go home, think about what you just said and ask for redemption when you come back. Stupid.

Just to let some of you ignorant, naive bandwaggers know, a great footballer is not defined by the number of nutmegs he makes, by the eyecandy of his goals, by his number of silverware nor by the number of uber compilation videos of him you download while you're looking at you're favourite pr0n. A great footballer is defined, by his very presence on the field, by way he motivates his team, by the way he leads his team to glory - whether this be in the World Cup or the Uefa Cup. Now you tell me how much of a leader Ronaldinho is. As far as I've seen, he's a ball-hogging-useful-player-who's-overrated-by-his-stupid-eyecandy. He's a great player don't get me wrong. But I think the image he, Barcelona, Nike and Brazil have created around him has killed his game and ego and killed any potential of him truly being remembered in the books of football. Oh, and the fact that he's Brazilian gave him an immediate pushstart, just because people blindly love Brazilians for... being Brazilian.

Let's be honest kids, if you're looking for eyecandy football, UEFA and FIFA are not the organizations to be watching. You should move to some elite corner of Rio de Janiero or Amsterdam and chill the homeless ghetto kids who play a game based around skills and nutmegs. I think Nike even moved into that territory and made a DVD about them.

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Originally posted by PersianMafia A great footballer is defined, by his very presence on the field, by way he motivates his team, by the way he leads his team to glory - whether this be in the World Cup or the Uefa Cup. Now you tell me how much of a leader Ronaldinho is.

he's all that at barça so no point

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Ronaldinho is a great leader from what I've heard in interviews with other Barcelona-players. For an example, when Lionel Messi was interviewed yesterday on Swedish TV he said that Ronaldinho had learned him alot of moves and some important stuff. He also said that he was a major influence on him and his play.

I guess that's one part of being a great leader.

ive said it before, Jorge "el magico" Gonzales owns the hell out of pele and maradona when it came to technique. Not to mention Ronaldinho.
Its too bad theres only 4 videos floating around on the internet...he did amazing things with the ball..

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Originally posted by PersianMafia I hate negative posts, but I'm sorry but you're stupid. Very stupid. I think a five year-old knows more about soccer than you. Go home, think about what you just said and ask for redemption when you come back. Stupid.

I've got a cabinet full of soccer trophies so don't tell me I know nothing about soccer

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You can't decide it now, because he hasn't finished his career yet and there's still lot to do for him. By far his not the best player ever, but for sure he can be...

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