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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me



Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY

Well, I don't think I could have gotten my wisdom teeth pulled at a better time than tonight. No work tomorrow. Curious how many days I'll be walking to work for the remainder of the week, though.

Can't really blame them, though. I wouldn't work without a contract either. Pataki's comment on the news tonight about how public servants (teachers, firefighters, police, etc.) have worked for weeks, months, even years without contracts was a slap in the face of all of those types of workers in New York State and really set my opinions about this situation. To me, that basically said to the workers, "Fuck you all, we own you, work without any sort of contract because we have a law that says you can't say no and if you do, we'll do our worst." "You don't have any options other than submission to our will."

Also, it's not like these workers have nothing to lose. It's the week before Christmas and they're all threatened with stiff fines and potential jail time for the union leaders. To me, it doesn't seem like a compromise was even close if 30,000 people are taking risks like that.

This is a situation that sucks for all of us, but it's pretty sad to see how the MTA, with the government's backing, is bullying these workers and forcing them to work without the financial support that they feel they deserve to make their job worthwhile.

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Blake
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Hilo, Hawaii
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Great. This probably means no work for me today. *sigh* They're f*cking with my money . Giuliani where are you!?


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LIT



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: twentyonetwo

this is funny

now do i walk 40 blocks to work or just stay home and say fuck it...hrmmmmmmmmmm

guess i'll go to the gym like regular....yea the time is right 5:15am bitches!


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BiG MiKE
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: LINY

30,000 people on strike as of this morning. How are you gettin to work? Boy those taxi drivers are gonna be like gold tickets


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Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Well, I don't think I could have gotten my wisdom teeth pulled at a better time than tonight. No work tomorrow. Curious how many days I'll be walking to work for the remainder of the week, though.

Can't really blame them, though. I wouldn't work without a contract either. Pataki's comment on the news tonight about how public servants (teachers, firefighters, police, etc.) have worked for weeks, months, even years without contracts was a slap in the face of all of those types of workers in New York State and really set my opinions about this situation. To me, that basically said to the workers, "Fuck you all, we own you, work without any sort of contract because we have a law that says you can't say no and if you do, we'll do our worst." "You don't have any options other than submission to our will."

Also, it's not like these workers have nothing to lose. It's the week before Christmas and they're all threatened with stiff fines and potential jail time for the union leaders. To me, it doesn't seem like a compromise was even close if 30,000 people are taking risks like that.

This is a situation that sucks for all of us, but it's pretty sad to see how the MTA, with the government's backing, is bullying these workers and forcing them to work without the financial support that they feel they deserve to make their job worthwhile.


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The Public Employment Relations Board, a state body that oversees labor relations for government employees, did not issue a decision yesterday in response to a complaint that the union filed on Sunday, asserting that the authority had violated state law by including its pension demands as part of what it said was its final offer. The union has asked the labor board to seek an injunction ordering the authority to drop its pension demand.

TWU blog


TA was violating the law before TWU members did. But let's all forget that and look at the workers as being bad people if you believe the medias' angle.


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Miss Bliss
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Bern, Switzerland

So weird to hear about the strike.. I do support it but it's just unreal.

I'd like to be in midtown at 8am and see the zoo...

BTW with the 4+ passenger restrictions I don't know how my parents are gonna get to work from LI to the city if this is still in effect on Thursday.

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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: twentyonetwo

yea my ass aint walkin to work think its back to sleep for me


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Konijn
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Well, I don't think I could have gotten my wisdom teeth pulled at a better time than tonight. No work tomorrow. Curious how many days I'll be walking to work for the remainder of the week, though.

Can't really blame them, though. I wouldn't work without a contract either. Pataki's comment on the news tonight about how public servants (teachers, firefighters, police, etc.) have worked for weeks, months, even years without contracts was a slap in the face of all of those types of workers in New York State and really set my opinions about this situation. To me, that basically said to the workers, "Fuck you all, we own you, work without any sort of contract because we have a law that says you can't say no and if you do, we'll do our worst." "You don't have any options other than submission to our will."

Also, it's not like these workers have nothing to lose. It's the week before Christmas and they're all threatened with stiff fines and potential jail time for the union leaders. To me, it doesn't seem like a compromise was even close if 30,000 people are taking risks like that.

This is a situation that sucks for all of us, but it's pretty sad to see how the MTA, with the government's backing, is bullying these workers and forcing them to work without the financial support that they feel they deserve to make their job worthwhile.


word up -- unions have historically been the biggest boon to middle class growth, stability and prosperity and it's no coincidence that the decline of Labor during the last 30 years has had a direct link to the massive income gap between the haves and have-nots.

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trunks1022
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: forest hills TA #?

quote:
Originally posted by Blake
Gulliani where are you!?


who's that? heh.

i'm glad the transit workers finally had the balls to say FU to the mta and gov officials.... i just hope that the sister unions of metro north and LIRR don't do the same, otherwise no work for me heh

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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: twentyonetwo

drinking this coffee is encouraging me to strap up my kicks and throw on a pair of jeans and hoof it to work....I THINK IM GONNA TREK IT WEEEE


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hitokiri
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Gallifrey

indeed good post ryan (i knew i could count on you ) i just find it reeeal interesting that pataki manages to get his two cents in after the strike has been ordered my question is where was he during the negotiations OH THATS RIGHT! he was outta state and its funny that they cried broke before yet SOMEHOW manage to offer 3 3.5 an 3 and no increase to retirement yet before it was 3 and what 2 ? and had nerve to say that the twu used bully tactics? what bout the tailor laws wheres the checks n balances in that the mta uses that as a bully tactic since the law benifits them but what kind of security do unions have they always had a take it leave it kind of attitude like a "your lucky your getting even this" kinda attitude..... sad it has to be done but with all the crap that has been done in the yrs before this... time for a change


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Groundhog Boy
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Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY

Christina left my place at 14th St. at 8:35 or so. She just called saying that her hospital's shuttle never appeared to be running as planned. They were supposed to have pick ups similar to the M15 bus line on the east side. Her and some of her friends that live near us got a cab around 25-30th St. for $5 each up to 60th street and she was to work by 9:05. It took her less time than when she takes the bus.

She said that 1st Ave's traffic wasn't too bad, actually. I'm watching the coverage on TV at home, though, and they're showing 96th St. as being the barrier that no one can cross because the cops are checking every car for enough passengers. Also, they're making trucks pull over, which is backing things up. The BQE is awful, as well as the Lincoln Tunnel because of people who didn't pay attention to the restrictions and are now being turned back or detoured.

BTW, glad to see that people on here aren't nearly as selfish as most of the people being interviewed on TV. It's inconvenient for everyone and it sucks because you can't get around, get to work, etc., but at least it seems like a lot of people who have responded in this thread look at things from both sides of things. Some guy on TV actually said he thinks that ALL 30,000+ employess should be fired for striking.

Lastly, am I the only one who feels like these contracts shouldn't be expiring in December, but some better month, like May, when people wouldn't freeze walking around. The blackout sucked, but when I walked over 10 miles home, it wasn't nearly as bad as if it were to happen today.

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