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Originally posted by idoru Because there are those of us who started off with CDJs who plan on getting into vinyl later on. Do vinyl decks have BPM displays? No, and the mixers that have them are horribly inaccurate (I was spinning approx. 128 the other day, and the DJM said I was at 442-530). It trains your ear so you don't have to look, so transitioning to vinyl actually makes sense to you, rather than going, "Uhh... How do I tell how fast I'm going?" It's not to "look cool." A DJ should be able to do it by ear in the first place.

so? he said its far easier to just use your ears.. bulshit. im not talking about learning. i can mix already, i dont have to learn to do it by ear, i already can lol.

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Originally posted by idoru Do vinyl decks have BPM displays? No

Mine do.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Mine do.

Okay... do most, then?

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Originally posted by idoru Because there are those of us who started off with CDJs who plan on getting into vinyl later on. Do vinyl decks have BPM displays? No, and the mixers that have them are horribly inaccurate (I was spinning approx. 128 the other day, and the DJM said I was at 442-530). It trains your ear so you don't have to look, so transitioning to vinyl actually makes sense to you, rather than going, "Uhh... How do I tell how fast I'm going?" It's not to "look cool." A DJ should be able to do it by ear in the first place.

His point is, if you're using CDJs (especially pioneers) the bpm counter can save a few seconds of hefty pitch work since you can get it in the ballpark range quicker, and then go straight to finer adjustments. Its a tool to use. Of course we could just pull a morillo and burn everything at the same bpm, but thats no fun

On vinyl unless you write down the bpm of all your records (which could be just as easily done) you'll have to figure it out by ear which takes a few seconds longer, no matter how quick you are.

Sometimes I'm mixing stuff with no kick and the counters are completely off anyway so I dont use em at all.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle so? he said its far easier to just use your ears.. bulshit.

Not everyone's the same, you know that, right?

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Originally posted by Tayfoon When the fuck did he say that ??

lol...it was an interview posted on TA in this forum, where he said he was more used to the feel of vinyl, but he "had to embrace new technology" and thus start playing ONLY CDs and no vinyl.

Which is absolute BS, I saw Danny Howells dropping vinyl like it was 99' last saturday, and if theres one DJ who could get whatever track they fucking want pressed, its Tiesto.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by idoru Not everyone's the same, you know that, right?

really? omg i thought everyone was identical. my bad.

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Originally posted by idoru Okay... do most, then?

Naw... and I've disabled mine too

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Originally posted by sleepydragon well what sort of idiot djs use beat counters anyway?

never in my life have I used them and never will... most useless invention ever haha

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