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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I've always wondered.... what exactly does PETA prepose we do with all the food stock if humans were to actually decide to all become vegetarians?

At a high level, the balance of existing animal "inventory" at farms/slaughter hourses would be processed as it would have anyways. the animals left in the wild would be left to breed naturally.

The amount of grain that is produced to feed animals meant for slaughter is astronomical. the amount of land used to raise these animals is crazy. The time, energy, money and environmental resources used *just* to raise animals for the sole purpose of slaughter boggles my mind when so many people are starving in the world.

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Originally posted by shanny

That is insane. I would die if I ate that.

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Originally posted by Skipper At a high level, the balance of existing animal "inventory" at farms/slaughter hourses would be processed as it would have anyways.

I'm not sure I follow.... all live stock would be slaughtered despite the total lack of demand for meat? Who does PETA suspect will pay to transport the stock to the slaughter houses or slaughter them?

Anyone want to advice about any meat, I would happy to help them I have 5 years experience as a meat cutter...I'm not one anymore but I still love all beef, chicken, pork or fish.
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm not sure I follow.... all live stock would be slaughtered despite the total lack of demand for meat? Who does PETA suspect will pay to transport the stock to the slaughter houses or slaughter them?

I think we're talking about different things. PETA doesn't assume the DEMAND for meat will disappear. but I expect if meat were going to be phased out of the food chain, the remaining animals left would be slaughtered as planned and consumed as planned, instead of pushing them out into the wild.

I don't think that even PETA considers this to be a realistic scenario to shoot for though. However, what most vegetarian and animal rights associations strive for is awareness. Awareness of the health consequences and environmental consequences. PETA chooses to use extreme shock tactics in their campaigns to do this.

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Originally posted by Cuzo Anyone want to advice about any meat, I would happy to help them I have 5 years experience as a meat cutter...I'm not one anymore but I still love all beef, chicken, pork or fish. PM me for advice.

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Originally posted by Skipper but I expect if meat were going to be phased out of the food chain, the remaining animals left would be slaughtered as planned and consumed as planned, instead of pushing them out into the wild. I don't think that even PETA considers this to be a realistic scenario to shoot for though. However, what most vegetarian and animal rights associations strive for is awareness. Awareness of the health consequences and environmental consequences. PETA chooses to use extreme shock tactics in their campaigns to do this.

I beg to differ... a PETA member will disagree with you. An immediate stop is the only option... slowly ending the food chain continues what PETA feels is senseless slaughter of animals. To them, it must stop now, and let all animals run free as they wish. Ask Ingrid Newkirk.

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Originally posted by Skipper The time, energy, money and environmental resources used *just* to raise animals for the sole purpose of slaughter boggles my mind when so many people are starving in the world.

I'm more boggled at the amount of food being wasted and dumped when many people are starving.

-ET, proud member of PETA (People Enjoying Tasty Animals)

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by EvilTree I'm more boggled at the amount of food being wasted and dumped when many people are starving. -ET, proud member of PETA (People Enjoying Tasty Animals)

How can you even say that when the biggest amount of food being wasted or dumped is animal products, or food being used to raise animals for slaughter?

Consider what we need to survive - we don't need meat to live. It is the only part of the diet that can be removed and replaced without any health consequences, aside from processed food items.

I don't understand your comment at all

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Originally posted by Skipper How can you even say that when the biggest amount of food being wasted or dumped is animal products, or food being used to raise animals for slaughter? Consider what we need to survive - we don't need meat to live. It is the only part of the diet that can be removed and replaced without any health consequences, aside from processed food items. I don't understand your comment at all

You're right Skipper, but clarification is required. We don't need it to live. However PETA only supports a vegan lifestyle. It only temporarily tolerates vegetarians because it's an improvement over omnivores. Vegans MUST suppliment their diet through vitamin and nutritional supplements (www.vegansociety.com).

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Agreed.

Don't get me wrong - I am very new to vegetarianism, and am incorporating it into my life at the rate that is comfortable and manageble to me. PETA goes wrong because it is SOOOO over the top, what they want from people and how they go about trying to change behaviour. Shocking images don't make people think as much as they make people turn away. It is silly, but people need to gently understand the consequences of their actions on this topic, and there are many other vegetarian awareness campaigns out there that are successful because they go about their business in a much more "tame" sort of way.

Personally I stopped eating meat as an experiment to see how meat was affecting my stomach problems that I was having - and I feel much better. But as I continue with it, I've done research into the other consequences of an animal diet and while I don't claim to be perfect, I think organizations like PETA need to recognize that even people's small changes (like mine - I still consume dairy, I haven't thrown out my leather purses) are making a difference.

sorry, that's my rant...