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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism

Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
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| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
why isnt he bringing Democracy to Saudi Arabia for example? |
they didn't try to invade and steal oil from neighboring countries and gas people for starters.
| quote: | | But how do you know for fact that this is what the Iraqis want? |
15 million Iraqis do. but you know better, right? cause you're so worldly with your intraweb and stuff.
| quote: | | It doesnt seem like they are up for decmocracy to me. | seriously, they don't care what you've been fed by your choice of media. to be honest, they don't care about mine either.
| quote: | | Agian Democracy has many meanings.Maybe to them a free country means having Islam as a rule of law,would that be a problem? |
"Verily we have honored the children of Adam" (Qur'an 17:70)
We the sons of Mesopotamia, land of the prophets, resting place of the holy imams, the leaders of civilization and the creators of the alphabet, the cradle of arithmetic: on our land, the first law put in place by mankind was written; in our nation, the most noble era of justice in the politics of nations was laid down; on our soil, the followers of the prophet and the saints prayed, the philosophers and the scientists theorized and the writers and poets created.
Recognizing God's right upon us; obeying the call of our nation and our citizens; responding to the call of our religious and national leaders and the insistence of our great religious authorities and our leaders and our reformers, we went by the millions for the first time in our history to the ballot box, men and women, young and old, on January 30, 2005, remembering the pains of the despotic band's sectarian oppression of the majority; inspired by the suffering of Iraq's martyrs — Sunni and Shiite, Arab, Kurd and Turkomen, and the remaining brethren in all communities — inspired by the injustice against the holy cities in the popular uprising and against the marshes and other places; recalling the agonies of the national oppression in the massacres of Halabja, Barzan, Anfal and against the Faili Kurds; inspired by the tragedies of the Turkomen in Bashir and the suffering of the people of the western region, whom the terrorists and their allies sought to take hostage and prevent from participating in the elections and the establishment of a society of peace and brotherhood and cooperation so we can create a new Iraq, Iraq of the future, without sectarianism, racial strife, regionalism, discrimination or isolation.
Terrorism and takfir (declaring someone an infidel) did not divert us from moving forward to build a nation of law. Sectarianism and racism did not stop us from marching together to strengthen our national unity, set ways to peacefully transfer power, adopt a manner to fairly distribute wealth and give equal opportunity to all.
We the people of Iraq, newly arisen from our disasters and looking with confidence to the future through a democratic, federal, republican system, are determined — men and women, old and young — to respect the rule of law, reject the policy of aggression, pay attention to women and their rights, the elderly and their cares, the children and their affairs, spread the culture of diversity and defuse terrorism.
We are the people of Iraq, who in all our forms and groupings undertake to establish our union freely and by choice, to learn yesterday's lessons for tomorrow, and to write down this permanent constitution from the high values and ideals of the heavenly messages and the developments of science and human civilization, and to adhere to this constitution, which shall preserve for Iraq its free union of people, land and sovereignty.
| quote: | | This war was and still is a disaster and the mission was never accomplished and I doubt it ever will be. |
i guess the upside is that you're just one misinformed young person from Canada that has nothing invested in the struggle.
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Apr-02-2006 04:06
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hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind

Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
they didn't try to invade and steal oil from neighboring countries and gas people for starters. |
Isnt that the same country that was resposible for the so called 911 attacks?Saddam was another American fuckup.They used him as much as they could to fight the mullahs in Iran then suddenly he became their enemy just like Bin Laden.Why did it have to take all these years for the American government to take him out of power?
| quote: | | 15 million Iraqis do. but you know better, right? cause you're so worldly with your intraweb and stuff. |
ya right I only get my info from the web,I mean it is not like I was born in that region or anything.Where the hell do you get your propaganda from?Fox news?or the white house briefings?
| quote: | | seriously, they don't care what you've been fed by your choice of media. to be honest, they don't care about mine either. |
Ya you are right they are very happy and they are thankful for the invasion and what we see and hear from the media are all lies. 
| quote: | "Verily we have honored the children of Adam" (Qur'an 17:70)
We the sons of Mesopotamia, land of the prophets, resting place of the holy imams, the leaders of civilization and the creators of the alphabet, the cradle of arithmetic: on our land, the first law put in place by mankind was written; in our nation, the most noble era of justice in the politics of nations was laid down; on our soil, the followers of the prophet and the saints prayed, the philosophers and the scientists theorized and the writers and poets created.
Recognizing God's right upon us; obeying the call of our nation and our citizens; responding to the call of our religious and national leaders and the insistence of our great religious authorities and our leaders and our reformers, we went by the millions for the first time in our history to the ballot box, men and women, young and old, on January 30, 2005, remembering the pains of the despotic band's sectarian oppression of the majority; inspired by the suffering of Iraq's martyrs — Sunni and Shiite, Arab, Kurd and Turkomen, and the remaining brethren in all communities — inspired by the injustice against the holy cities in the popular uprising and against the marshes and other places; recalling the agonies of the national oppression in the massacres of Halabja, Barzan, Anfal and against the Faili Kurds; inspired by the tragedies of the Turkomen in Bashir and the suffering of the people of the western region, whom the terrorists and their allies sought to take hostage and prevent from participating in the elections and the establishment of a society of peace and brotherhood and cooperation so we can create a new Iraq, Iraq of the future, without sectarianism, racial strife, regionalism, discrimination or isolation.
Terrorism and takfir (declaring someone an infidel) did not divert us from moving forward to build a nation of law. Sectarianism and racism did not stop us from marching together to strengthen our national unity, set ways to peacefully transfer power, adopt a manner to fairly distribute wealth and give equal opportunity to all.
We the people of Iraq, newly arisen from our disasters and looking with confidence to the future through a democratic, federal, republican system, are determined — men and women, old and young — to respect the rule of law, reject the policy of aggression, pay attention to women and their rights, the elderly and their cares, the children and their affairs, spread the culture of diversity and defuse terrorism.
We are the people of Iraq, who in all our forms and groupings undertake to establish our union freely and by choice, to learn yesterday's lessons for tomorrow, and to write down this permanent constitution from the high values and ideals of the heavenly messages and the developments of science and human civilization, and to adhere to this constitution, which shall preserve for Iraq its free union of people, land and sovereignty. |
If thats the case then whats with the civil war?oh right I forgot that civil war is the road to democracy.
| quote: | | i guess the upside is that you're just one misinformed young person from Canada that has nothing invested in the struggle. |
Thank god we are not part of this shit. At least you have polland helping you out. lol
and my money isnt going down the toilet like yours. 
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jeronemango
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Brisbane
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i thought the war was about the WMD's and the mobile labs which they displayed pictures of... hmmmm i wonder where they all went ?... could they, the Gov of the USA make this all up???
my god....
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Apr-02-2006 18:24
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tranceNlife
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: REQUIRED
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| quote: | Originally posted by jeronemango
i thought the war was about the WMD's and the mobile labs which they displayed pictures of... hmmmm i wonder where they all went ?... could they, the Gov of the USA make this all up???
my god.... |
I heard some guy in one Comedy show saying they have been moved to Syria now! lol
Poor guy was trying hard selling his book. And even managed to convince some guys in here to buy his fantasy fiction work. lol
Purple.
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Apr-02-2006 18:42
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hardcore trancer
Mystic Mind

Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada
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Apr-03-2006 05:24
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tranceNlife
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: REQUIRED
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| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
yeah except the guy who wrote it is an iraqi general. you dumb mother****** you think you can just re-reg. you're a fucking idiot. go OD on drugs and stop wasting our air and water. |
You mom loves giving my dog blowjob. Try mentally picturing it for full satisfaction.
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Apr-03-2006 06:27
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