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Originally posted by Seakr Actually, "religion" is what destroys people's hope from wanting a relationship with God. The people who attend church or go through out their lives thinking they're "O so holier than thou" because they think they know God. Thinking they can go to church for that one hour on Sunday, and then do what they want the rest of the week, and think they're all good with God. It's these kind of people that set the bad example of how it's really supposed to be LIVED more than anything. I once saw a billboard in front of a church that said "The best sermon is one you live". people without faith/beliefs/morals whatever you wanna call it, they see these so called "believers", and think "jeez, he doesn't really seem to practice what he says he believes.." and assume that because of these hypocrites, that God isn't there. Just remember one thing, the Bible shows Jesus kicked it with the sinners, NOT the "super holy church people". he rebuked the synogouges the most because they lacked the one main thing that sealed the whole of the Law, and that was that they didn't show love.

i think you're re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic here. the entire premise of christianity/catholicism is archiac bullshit that was designed thousands of years ago by those in power to help the leaders keep a firm control on people, to make them die for king and country when needed, and to keep society submissive and moral. for those people it was a great coping mechanism for all the plight and suffering of their day. today it's just a safety blanket that weak, dependent people latch on to instead of dealing with the grim meathook realities of life...

religion itself is an evolution of human ego, it will continue to evolve and the people of tomorrow will continue to laugh at the beliefs of the people of today, certain in themselves that the faith-based beliefs of tomorrow won't again be ridiculed sometime further in the future.

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Originally posted by lex400sc i think you're arranging deck chairs on the titanic here. the entire premise of christianity/catholicism is archiac bullshit that was designed thousands of years ago by those in power to help the leaders keep a firm control on people and society. for those people it was a great coping mechanism for all the plight and suffering in their day. now it's just a safety blanket that weak, dependent people latch on to today instead of dealing with the grim meathook realities of life... religion is an evolution of human ego, it will continue to evolve and people of tomorrow will continue to laugh at the beliefs of the people of today certain that the faith-based beliefs of tomorrow won't again be ridiculed in the future.

no, i'd say plain and simple you just don't believe it. i do. welcome to earth. are you gonna hate me for it? do you look down on me because i DO believe? what's the difference between a racist hating someone for their color, and hating someone for their faith/beliefs?? it's still hate.

so if you don't hate, do you think i'm stupid?

guess what, if i were to meet you in person, The God topic might not come up, and if it did, i'm not gonna start condemning you. everyone knows what the Bible says. i don't really need to elaborate much more than people are interested.

There's this book called "Jesus Freaks" that tells of many accounts throughout history of people who were martyred for their faith in Christ. One story in particular i remember was before the man was about to be shot, his killer asked him "i have the power to kill you right now in my hands, do you still believe in your Savior?!?!"

And the man replied, "Actually, i have the power. Because while you have the power to kill me, I have the power to love you while doing it."

i love that

ummm right, believe whatever you want, ignore the logical fallacies of such flowery concepts as "eternal happiness" and continue to have sunshine blown up your ass every sunday. i won't hate you for it, but i will laugh

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I was brought up R.C. went to a Marist Brother run school. I like to think it made me who I am now,which is a humanist. I dont know if I would still have been as compassionate had that not been the case but some of the teachings/opinions must have rubbed off on me- so maybe it wasnt such a bad thing after all.
On a different note, Ive got a personalised number-plate
.............but no car.

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let me ask this: how can you be eternally happy in heaven when invariably some of the people you grew to love and care for here in your life on earth will end up in hell and you will never see them, spend time with them, or hear their voice EVER again? how can eternal happiness even exist aside from that matter? law of diminishing returns anyone??? you think after 20,000 years in heaven, you'll be just as excited and happy as your very first moment in heaven?

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Originally posted by lex400sc let me ask this: how can you be eternally happy in heaven when invariably some of the people you grew to love and care for here in your life on earth will end up in hell and you will never see them, spend time with them, or hear their voice EVER again? how can eternal happiness even exist aside from that matter? law of diminishing returns anyone??? you think after 20,000 years in heaven, you'll be just as excited and happy as your very first moment in heaven?

On this matter, the Bible does say something interesting. it won't comepletly answer your question, but interesting, at least i think.

Apparently, the bible says that we will have glorified bodies in heaven. As to the extent of the details, and exactly what that is, i can't tell you, or even perceive it (because i still live in a body of flesh ) But it does say that we will be made like unto Him.

Anyways, there's a part that talks about God personally wiping away everyone's tears. now yes, all jokes aside, and the cuteness factors and all the "awwwww's" or "that's GAY", that's what it says.

If Heaven is perfect, and we will have glorified bodies, how or WHY would we cry?

There's so much stuff i could say, but honestly i don't wanna post anything i don't have verse for verse. and even then, verses are always up for interpretation.

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Originally posted by enferno so now a whole new question comes up: if you cloned yourself, gave you2 a vagina, and fucked it, would that be incest, or just fuckin nuts?

More like masturbation.



Btw doesn't rape imply some physical activity?

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Originally posted by Pjotr G More like masturbation. Btw doesn't rape imply some physical activity?

can't you verbally rape/violate someone?

don't hurt yourself...

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

Dont Think its a dangerous thing to do

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gabriel_and_dresden

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...known from a videotape the two made when they met in March... in Dresdens home, Dresden amputated Gabriels penis and Dresden and Gabriel ate the penis together...Gabriel had insisted that Dresden bite his penis off; this did not work.. Dresden used a knife. When that knife turned out to be too blunt, Dresden used a sharper knife to slice the penis off. Gabriel apparently tried to eat his share of his own penis..but could not because it was too..."chewy". Dresden then sautéed the penis in a pan with salt, pepper, and garlic.

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Originally posted by igottaknow the bible was made up of a bunch of guys who convinced everyone thats what god told them to write down. but yeah its full of contradictions and doesn't even remotely jive with the true history of the earth described by scientists and backed up by the fossil record. go figure maybe the bible might be wrong. you'd figure that jesus the son of god would have writen the bible but no he left i up to other dudes who put it together 500 years after his death. it must be true god does work in mysterious ways. lol

why are you killing the fun ? it's Jesus lol!

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Originally posted by lex400sc fossils were planted in the ground by god to test our faith in creationism! you will burn in hell for questioning the absolute certainty of our origins!!!!!

it's Bill Hicks lol

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Originally posted by enferno so now a whole new question comes up: if you cloned yourself, gave you2 a vagina, and fucked it, would that be incest, or just fuckin nuts?

that would be masturbation

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