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GUBostonDubs
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Boston, MA

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
It will work fine, just change the pitch of one of the tracks to match the other.


I dont think thats what he was saying. I think he meant if u kept the original track playing at 137.9 bpms would it stay matched with a track u bring in at 138 bpms....and the answer is not for long..

those computer programs like mixmeister and atomix allow u to make unrealistic mixes like that for some reason. It just wouldnt work on cdjs or tables accurately


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Spirit5
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quote:
Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
it would for a few seconds but it would soon drift. It's more accurate the closer you are especially if you were on cdjs...


Yeah I mean sometimes it seems like i'm mixing in a track at 130 and it's really close to 131 and I play the next track at 131 and it seems fine (yeah I may need to do some pitch bending sometimes or do some minor corrections but no biggy). With all of the %1.45, %1.50, %2.35, %3.25 etc etc pitch wouldn't it be hard to not do that because there doesn't always seem like a huge difference between something pitched at %1.50 to something at %1.60. I dunno if it's just me but I have trouble telling a difference on some tracks, but when it goes down to say %1.30 from %1.50 or %1.60 then I hear a little difference, but all of those percentage points make it difficult sometimes to tell if it's exactly pitched right even if I think it is from listening...and then you get into %1.52, %1.53, %1.54 etc. I mean do you have to be THAT accurate?? because it starts to get confusing when you have all of those decimal points on CDJs...

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ThaMaestro
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
Soooo

W/tables normally there is only +/- 8% Soo even if you push the pitch as high as you can, its basically impossible to go 120 to 140.

If you want after the 8th bar you can quickly change the pitch, yeah people will notice it but it sounds alright if u need to.

Other wise going from 120 -> 140 you are going to have to build your set and slowly go up 1 -> 2 bpm's a track slowly getting to 140.

Or you could mix out of a breakdown

or on the 8th bar hope that your 140 track hits at the right time and you can just cut the track thats going 120 off, but its not reccommended


well, first of all, thnx for replying. of course, at once from 120 to 140 is almost impossible, for a bedroom-dj like me. what im meaning, is that when you do a set of lets say 2 hrs, how can you build it up? of course it will happen in small steps; that will give the audience the least way to notice any shifts in tempo.
and of course, during a track, one can pitch up some 4% in ltes say minutes. it wont be noticed that easy, at least, its better then doing 4% in 1 instant .... nut im looking for other 'tricks'. not just pichting a record every now and then to gain more BPM's. but other ways ... recomm.'s?


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quote:
Originally posted by ThaMaestro
well, first of all, thnx for replying. of course, at once from 120 to 140 is almost impossible, for a bedroom-dj like me. what im meaning, is that when you do a set of lets say 2 hrs, how can you build it up? of course it will happen in small steps; that will give the audience the least way to notice any shifts in tempo.
and of course, during a track, one can pitch up some 4% in ltes say minutes. it wont be noticed that easy, at least, its better then doing 4% in 1 instant .... nut im looking for other 'tricks'. not just pichting a record every now and then to gain more BPM's. but other ways ... recomm.'s?


mix during a breakdown

or just tiesto slam into the next track

use fx to pitch up one of the tracks to the track thats 140 and mix into the track thats 140


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80-140


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132 - 140


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EriK_V
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or just tiesto slam into the next track


haha


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IcyLogik
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128-132. Maybe go as high as 134 and low as 126.

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144-150.. Psy @ its best speed.

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0 (ambient stuff) - 190

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Derivative
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Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by J:\Digital
144-150.. Psy @ its best speed.


In my humble opinion thats too fast for psy. You get alot of psy tunes now pushing up to those BPMs straight off the CD like Beat Hackers - Transpose. Cracking good song but when you swing into something like Jaia - Breathing Ocean, which is low 130s it just has such a different groove and it gets me more.

Transpose is great but sometimes it can be a little too frenetic. Alien Project is releasing CDs here and there where everything is over 146 BPM and I just dont feel the speed. You lose a bit of the swing as well.

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