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Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

I'd actually never really seen any until I went to Europe and saw everyone doing them on the train each morning on my way to class. So I picked it up and got fairly decent at it by the time I left. Does anyone remember those logic puzzle mystery things with the grids? Kind of the same I guess. Used to do those in middle school back in the day.


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JBDreamerie
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas

i used to be really bad at these, but really loved them. did one a day.
now, i can complete a gentle in 5 minutes
and an evil/most difficult in 45 minutes to an hour.

and about them dying out in popularity, i'm not sure, i think it's more appealing to mathematically minded people...just like crosswords are for word people...and those haven't died out


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Psy-T
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
i used to be really bad at these, but really loved them. did one a day.
now, i can complete a gentle in 5 minutes
and an evil/most difficult in 45 minutes to an hour.

and about them dying out in popularity, i'm not sure, i think it's more appealing to mathematically minded people...just like crosswords are for word people...and those haven't died out


sudoku = pseudo-fractalic-jigsaw. exciting stuff


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JBDreamerie
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas

here's my strategy (if you don't want these hints, don't read it!!!):

first, print it out, and write on it.
second, with the row/column/box that has the most numbers in it, go through each of the ones that don't have numbers, and find the only possibilities in those. write them down.
third, repeat step 2.
at this point, there should be a fair amount that are filled out (because you were able to eliminate all but one in a box). on gentle level you most likely have 75% of it done. on evil, maybe 20%.
every box should be filled with a filled number, or a possibility of numbers.
now comes the key part. you have to know three basic tricks:
if in any row/column/9-box, the following happens:
1) in one box you have (1 2), in another box (1 2) and in another box (1 2 3); that third box HAS to be 3. or you can say, if any two boxes have two number possibilities (and ONLY two!), then you can eliminate those numbers from the rest of the boxes in the respective row/column/9-box
2) in one box you have (1 2), in another box (1 3) and in another box (1 2 3); those numbers cannot appear in ANY other box in that respective row/column/9-box
3) if you did the listing correctly, if one number appears in only one box of a row/column/9-box, that box has to contain that number.

and basically you just do it over and over and over again. you start developing an eye for it, and can start listing number possibilities really quickly. you start seeing patterns of possibilities and can start to eliminate numbers from other boxes.

for every 9-box, you have three rows, and three columns to check, so don't be discouraged if you go through it once and can't get it. if you are able to eliminate something from a 9-box, that probably will help you in another box. and so on.

also, if you notice, the square is always symmetric downwards (fold the entire square in half) and then horizontally (fold the remaining. i don't know how to explain it...it's like symmetric diagonally, and then mirrored. they're not the same numbers, but they should help you decide which row/column/9-box to start with first.


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I thought 'Sudoku' was Japanese for suicide?




I heard Saduko is japanese for a 3 some of some sort.

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Sunsnail
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Registered: Sep 2004
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can someone do this puzzle for me

xxx x8x x27
xxx xx3 x8x
x87 xxx 3x6

x5x xx6 xx1
1x6 xxx 8x3
2xx 1xx x5x

5x2 xxx 79x
x1x 5xx xxx
84x x7x xxx

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JBDreamerie
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
can someone do this puzzle for me

xxx x8x x27
xxx xx3 x8x
x87 xxx 3x6

x5x xx6 xx1
1x6 xxx 8x3
2xx 1xx x5x

5x2 xxx 79x
x1x 5xx xxx
84x x7x xxx


give me some time, i'll post it as soon as i figure it out


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Sunsnail
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
give me some time, i'll post it as soon as i figure it out


ok thanks. I tried but am stuck

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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
can someone do this puzzle for me
[code]
xxx x8x x27
xxx xx3 x8x
x87 xxx 3x6

x5x xx6 xx1
1x6 xxx 8x3
2xx 1xx x5x

5x2 xxx 79x
x1x 5xx xxx
84x x7x xxx



6 3 5 -- 4 8 1 -- 9 2 7
9 2 1 -- 6 3 7 -- 5 8 4
4 8 7 -- 9 5 2 -- 3 1 6

3 5 4 -- 8 9 6 -- 2 7 1
1 9 6 -- 7 2 5 -- 8 4 3
2 7 8 -- 1 4 3 -- 6 5 9

5 6 2 -- 3 1 4 -- 7 9 8
7 1 9 -- 5 6 8 -- 4 3 2
8 4 3 -- 2 7 9 -- 1 6 5


think that should be right...

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Sunsnail
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Registered: Sep 2004
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that cant be right

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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
that cant be right


what's wrong with it?

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UWM
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

I stopped playing Sudoku after I was finishing all the highest difficulty puzzles in 7-9 minutes.

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