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Devbert
Dutch Trance Worshipper



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: California
Re: Re: editor's corrections

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r


Ok, so not all the founding fathers were Christians or God fearing. I admit defeat in not being 100% accurate and therefore must be stupid!

Will no one answer my question without skirting the issue?
I'll rephrase the question I guess.
Now lets all have a momentary state of disbelieve (lol..that should be easy for the agnostics...).
Should a President be basing his countries decisions on the feelings of a small minority?
Whomever that minority should be; not necessarily a religious minority either...



I never said that you were stupid. I was just pointing out the clerical error being made. No personnal attack was stated. If so, please reference it.

To your question about the President basing his countries decisions: the minority is always an issue. This country is made up of tons of different types of minorities, and they all need to be equally respected. You can't always please everyone, but you should try to as much as possible. Especially as the President, whose first job is to unite us Americans as human beings. That can't be done if he ignores and berates different minorities, be it religious, sexual, ethnic, etc.

And if we're gonna play the quote game, I'll throw down a bunch of goodies.


"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid. "
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

"It was the experience of mystery -- even if mixed with fear -- that engendered religion."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

"Everything has been figured out, except how to live. "
- Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980)

"Hell is other people. "
- Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980)


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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Re: Re: Re: editor's corrections

quote:
Originally posted by Devbert


I never said that you were stupid. I was just pointing out the clerical error being made. No personnal attack was stated. If so, please reference it.

To your question about the President basing his countries decisions: the minority is always an issue. This country is made up of tons of different types of minorities, and they all need to be equally respected. You can't always please everyone, but you should try to as much as possible. Especially as the President, whose first job is to unite us Americans as human beings. That can't be done if he ignores and berates different minorities, be it religious, sexual, ethnic, etc.

And if we're gonna play the quote game, I'll throw down a bunch of goodies.


"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid. "
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

"It was the experience of mystery -- even if mixed with fear -- that engendered religion."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

"Everything has been figured out, except how to live. "
- Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980)

"Hell is other people. "
- Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980)



LoL! THAT I agree with...

I know you weren't calling me stupid Devbert...
I don't understand people who figure that but pointing out others faults somehow makes their point more valid that's all.
It happens a lot (not just here) and it's hard to control emotions sometimes of course. It's learning to be a little empathetic that helps.
Everyone has their own views, I've always respected that, heck, I live with it.
Let's just hope that the next 'debate' is just that; a debate and not some preschool name calling because of differing opinions and possible miscommunication (in my case I was not 100% accurate but the general point was made).
Do we all understand that? Sometimes we just have to learn to disagree....
I'm done here and I think we understand each other.


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Devbert
Dutch Trance Worshipper



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: California

Yep. Tomorrow I'll kick off the next debate in the series. I'm still pondering which topic to choose, but we'll find out tomorrow.


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dr me
Apathy



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Perth, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by Thor


The big bang 'unbelievable' ? Man its almost fact at this point, many scientists are saying the evidence is almost conclusive at this point.


I agree the big bang is plausable and have read extensively about it. It is what happened before the big bang that is still to be settled. Either way something is made from nothing, and i'd rather it be 1 universe than some mystical guy.


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Sand Leaper
Tension hunter



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway
Be Cool!

It's good to see that it is possible to discuss religion without starting yet another flame-war.I'm looking forward to next debate issue,Devbert.Excellent idea!


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Devbert
Dutch Trance Worshipper



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: California

Thanx. I just get tired of seeing name calling, instead of discussion. No one learns anything from that B$.


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tdawgs69
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: NOLA

I don't know alot about religion, and I didn't read all the threads of this post but I will tell you this. not only does god kill kittens everytime you masturbate. But everytime YOu kill a kitten, god masturbates, and that's why we have rain.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to hell now


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elena
vinyls are sexy



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: nyc

its all too subjective
myself not a religious person

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