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Originally posted by Push2005 Ontopic: I think Tiësto is slightly getting up from the slumber he used to be in at 2004.

For sure. If you look at 2004 tracklists it's the same tracks over and over. He's adding more variation/styles again I think. Makes it more interesting.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 that was Energy 2000. not the same as Trance Energy.

They aren't really different, though.

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Originally posted by Omega_M is tiesto reading this thread ?

Yes.

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Originally posted by Omega_M is tiesto reading this thread ?

Maybe...maybe not. It'll be great if he did. I really enjoy his music but I haven't heard any great set so far.

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Originally posted by RapidFire someone tell me this was recorded?? Id love to own a decent Tiesto set.

its all very well looking at a tracklist with tunes that seem popular among "certain" anoracks right now but it depends how the set was played.
just cos it looks good on paper doesnt mean a dj is on "form" or "good". its how the set was mixed. otherwise i could list 30 of the best tunes around and then start demanding that i become dj mags number 1 dj.
tiesto has a horrible tendency to trainwreck far too many times and the transition of the mix is usually rough and untidy and over the years he has not improved. track selection aside, the flow of the mix gets destroyed by a stampeed of cattle every 7-8 minutes.
after seeing oakenfold's god-awful set at global gathering last week (who was held in the same "god" status back in the day as tiesto is now), i can just feel tiesto going the same way as oakenfold.
im not bashing him at all, im just saying that throwing a list of tracks together is all very well but unless your mixing is spot on then its not right to say he should be amongst the top or that his sets are amazing. if that really was the case then alot of us on here would be challenging for number 1 this year and playing infront of 1000s of people every week.

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Originally posted by charlie lloyd its all very well looking at a tracklist with tunes that seem popular among "certain" anoracks right now but it depends how the set was played. just cos it looks good on paper doesnt mean a dj is on "form" or "good". its how the set was mixed. otherwise i could list 30 of the best tunes around and then start demanding that i become dj mags number 1 dj. tiesto has a horrible tendency to trainwreck far too many times and the transition of the mix is usually rough and untidy and over the years he has not improved. track selection aside, the flow of the mix gets destroyed by a stampeed of cattle every 7-8 minutes. after seeing oakenfold's god-awful set at global gathering last week (who was held in the same "god" status back in the day as tiesto is now), i can just feel tiesto going the same way as oakenfold. im not bashing him at all, im just saying that throwing a list of tracks together is all very well but unless your mixing is spot on then its not right to say he should be amongst the top or that his sets are amazing. if that really was the case then alot of us on here would be challenging for number 1 this year and playing infront of 1000s of people every week.

good point, too bad it has absolutely no meaning here, i was there, i can make the tracklist, i can also judge the mixing, he made 49 transitions, 1 maybe loose, and 1 strange one between evergreen and do't forget me. The rest were spot on.

So er,...yeah sorry. But nice try.

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Originally posted by charlie lloyd after seeing oakenfold's god-awful set at global gathering last week (who was held in the same "god" status back in the day as tiesto is now), i can just feel tiesto going the same way as oakenfold.

tiesto's mixing isn't half as bad as that was

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! good point, too bad it has absolutely no meaning here, i was there, i can make the tracklist, i can also judge the mixing, he made 49 transitions, 1 maybe loose, and 1 strange one between evergreen and do't forget me. The rest were spot on. So er,...yeah sorry. But nice try.

i think you didnt get my point after all. i didnt say it was a bad mix at all. i was trying to point out that judging a set by the tracklist is a bit silly because it depends how those tracks were put together.
anyway it doesnt matter cos i know ill just get lynched by the rest of the tiesto fans like yourself on here.
having seen and heard several tiesto sets this year, he is far from consistant at mixing fluently and im sure hardly anyone with an unbiased opinion can disagree.

ps, why do you have to be so anal with the "so, er, nice try"?, not every dj in the world is without fault or free from critisim no matter how much you like them. i like pvd and have done since 1998 but even i think he has been well below par over the last few years (with last year being an exception)and i wouldnt start flaming anyone who started saying anything critical towards him.

however back to my point, i still stand behind what i said about how easy it is to get carried away by a tracklist without actually hearing it( and i accept though you claim to have done as one of your 98 times since 2000, others have not but still say its a good set, hence my original post) and although "isoterra" was right about my link to oakenfold being a bit too far fetched, what i actually mean is that tiesto and the way his career is going is starting to echo how oakenfold has progressed over the last 7 years where now he feels he only has to turn up with minimal effort to do the job and everyone will be fine.

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Tracklist just gives a mix potential is all. I haven't heard a Tiesto set for the past two-three years, so if I'm going to listen to one, may as well be one with a tracklisting that appeals to me. And by all accounts the Vienna set is one where he laid back and got back into his old form where he played a nice tight set of tracks he loves instead of a commercial set of tracks he feels obligated to play.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Tracklist just gives a mix potential is all. I haven't heard a Tiesto set for the past two-three years, so if I'm going to listen to one, may as well be one with a tracklisting that appeals to me. And by all accounts the Vienna set is one where he laid back and got back into his old form where he played a nice tight set of tracks he loves instead of a commercial set of tracks he feels obligated to play.

thats cool but personally i prefer to listen to a set first without a tracklist because you dont go to a club or get a flyer before you go in with a tracklist on the back with what tracks the djs going to play (altough it has both pro's and con's) else clubs would be half empty because not every tracklist is completely to everyones tastes and even if they are they tend to be few and far between due to the diverse genres of EDM these days.

in regards to the vienna set, im sure someone who has been named number 1 dj in the world 3 times out of the last 4 years could play a "nice tight set of tracks he loves instead of a commercial set of tracks he feels obligated to play" whenever he wanted although several of the tracks in that list he plays every week as normal and are played by the same djs everyone loves to hate right now ie: pvd and armin.
what im saying is that if tiesto (as you say) feels he has to play comercial but rarely gets to play the music "he wants" then why does he not feel like he has enough weight behind him as being a former number 1 djs to play whatever he wants anyway or is it that he only feels that he can stay near the top of the "popularity contest" of the top 100 dj's by playing the crowd pleasing and comercial tunes?

im not entirely fussed either way, just interested to see why two guys like tiesto and oakenfold with mild if not limited technical djing ability can be held by so many people around the world at almost god-like status.
there are many djs around the world who play almost the same sets of tracks as tiesto, armin, pvd do but have much more technical ability and attitude behind the decks and skill at working the crowd yet are kept on the fringes. how can the younger more advanced generation break through if in 10 years time we're still going to clubs/festivals headlined by 50 year old djs living on past reputations like oakenfold and his (so called) "legendary" goa mix and tiesto with his "mix" of adagio.

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what i actually mean is that tiesto and the way his career is going is starting to echo how oakenfold has progressed over the last 7 years where now he feels he only has to turn up with minimal effort to do the job and everyone will be fine.

Not at all... perfecto was dying, BlackHole is blooming. Oakie got completely lazy, used too much drugs and hadn't got any fans left to back him up...

Tiësto isn't even near this. Your point is wrong. Funny how you think that people who might like tiësto now and then their opinions are automatically biased.

I didn't get anything from your last post here. Learn to structure it and then come back again. Thanks.