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Originally posted by Allied Nations Yeah, but that's not rly hip hop. Hip hop's roots are in partying and having a blast. As with house-

Really. I don't listen for that political correctness, free speech, new world order ish.

I like it bumpy & lite, not full of ego & political stigma.

Hip hop to me is Skee-Lo's...... I WISH I WAS A LITTLE BIT..

& Outkasts 'Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik'

& Biggie's 'Juicy' gawd that's my fave. Perfect! That and the Beastie Boy's 'Sure shot' The only 2 you'll ever need. Yep.

<3 Estella.

Click the palms for my new mix. I've missed you over the last 6 months... Granted I was in Spain WITHOUT YOU for a month.. but hey. Someone has to do it.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations <3 Estella. Click the palms for my new mix. I've missed you over the last 6 months... Granted I was in Spain WITHOUT YOU for a month.. but hey. Someone has to do it.

No, NO ONE should ever globetrot WITHOUT me. mmkkay. Trust, I wish I was there as bad as your phening right now for their orchata. hahaa

Did you visit Sevilla?

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Originally posted by Deeedeee No, NO ONE should ever globetrot WITHOUT me. mmkkay. Trust, I wish I was there as bad as your phening right now for their orchata. hahaa Did you visit Sevilla?

No, unfortunately I did not. I went to Madrid, Caceres, Alcantara (And beyond to a ranch on the border), Denia, Valencia, and Ibiza.

Jamon Serrano right off the leg is fucking DIVINE.


I expect comments and feedback on my mix STAT. (like whenever you get a chance to listen to it.)

Oh and I saw Daft Punk in Madrid. I win.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations No, unfortunately I did not. I went to Madrid, Caceres, Alcantara (And beyond to a ranch on the border), Denia, Valencia, and Ibiza. Jamon Serrano right off the leg is fucking DIVINE. I expect comments and feedback on my mix STAT. (like whenever you get a chance to listen to it.) Oh and I saw Daft Punk in Madrid. I win.

BITCH!

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Originally posted by Deeedeee BITCH!

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Kinda bummed Lebezniatnikov hasn't replied. Always love a good white on white hip hop debate. :/

Hehe, sorry, I went to bed early last night.

I'm not dismissing hip-hop that is about having a good time either. After all, Talib Kweli - Get Em High is one of my favorite tracks. But what I meant to say through the original post was that the grillz and billz style of rap made popular by some of the more commercial rappers today is a reinvention of hip-hop. When Public Enemy came out in the 90's, they completely changed the way the public digested hip-hop. It was still political back then, what with undertones of black/urban culture fighting against oppression, but that was in turn taken by Dre, Tupac, Snoop, and others into a celebration of women, booze, drugs, and money. That's not to say I don't dig some productions by those artists. They're artistically quite good... I just don't like a lot of their material (Tupac is kind of the missing link between the two groups -- lyrically he was very socially conscious).

The kind of hip-hop I appreciate I guess is constructive. The realization that problems exist in urban culture, and that offer social criticisms exposing these problems for public digestion. It can be a celebration of urban culture, and a hope that through unity and celebration of culture problems of poverty, crime, etc. can be hurdled.

The way I see it is that there are two types of hip-hop: constructive and deconstructive. Constructive is the celebration of culture and a hope for a better future. Deconstructive embraces the criminal underlife, lauds money and women as supreme goals in life, and basically only contributes to the detriment of urban culture and does nothing to promote it.

That might be kind of confusing still, but hopefully I've made myself a bit clearer than the other posts from earlier. VH1 actually did a really cool documentary/informational show a couple of years ago about the evolution of hip-hop through the early 90's. I hadn't known a lot about hip-hop other than what was on the radio, so it was kind of the beginning of my interest in it.

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Deeedeee FTL

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stfu Stren. I'm not cabaret stripper Estella.

I'm Deeedeee.

Ka peesh?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Hehe, sorry, I went to bed early last night. I'm not dismissing hip-hop that is about having a good time either. After all, Talib Kweli - Get Em High is one of my favorite tracks. But what I meant to say through the original post was that the grillz and billz style of rap made popular by some of the more commercial rappers today is a reinvention of hip-hop. When Public Enemy came out in the 90's, they completely changed the way the public digested hip-hop. It was still political back then, what with undertones of black/urban culture fighting against oppression, but that was in turn taken by Dre, Tupac, Snoop, and others into a celebration of women, booze, drugs, and money. That's not to say I don't dig some productions by those artists. They're artistically quite good... I just don't like a lot of their material (Tupac is kind of the missing link between the two groups -- lyrically he was very socially conscious). The kind of hip-hop I appreciate I guess is constructive. The realization that problems exist in urban culture, and that offer social criticisms exposing these problems for public digestion. It can be a celebration of urban culture, and a hope that through unity and celebration of culture problems of poverty, crime, etc. can be hurdled. The way I see it is that there are two types of hip-hop: constructive and deconstructive. Constructive is the celebration of culture and a hope for a better future. Deconstructive embraces the criminal underlife, lauds money and women as supreme goals in life, and basically only contributes to the detriment of urban culture and does nothing to promote it. That might be kind of confusing still, but hopefully I've made myself a bit clearer than the other posts from earlier. VH1 actually did a really cool documentary/informational show a couple of years ago about the evolution of hip-hop through the early 90's. I hadn't known a lot about hip-hop other than what was on the radio, so it was kind of the beginning of my interest in it.

You have a very nice vocabulary, hence you don't belong in this thread.

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Originally posted by Deeedeee You have a very nice vocabulary, hence you don't belong in this thread.

lol

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