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weymouth
aka Poe



Registered: May 2003
Location: Delaware

I think that we are at a stage where there are three types of DJs using Live. 1) The producer DJ who just uses Live to blend together his own tracks and doesn't use it technically. 2) The "lets create a 5 minute mix between two songs that totally loses energy in the set" DJs. 3) The mashup DJ who, if takes the time before hand, will create a new mashup for playing out but will only use the rest of Live for mixing.

Eventually someone will come along or evolve with actual musical training and say to himself, "The crowd is really responding to 'this type of sound'" and actually program into his set a whole new sound/ melody/bassline/beat created on the fly to play 3 songs later in his set by using a program or instruments, keyboards, synths, and whatnot on stage to record something to himself that the crowd cannot hear and then drop that sound into the mix. The focus will go from the mix of the tracks to the unexpected results that the DJ will create for those tracks.

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bobba lou
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Mp3s killed the black beauty

vinyl or go home. whites, older records, and records on labels that will never go digital (because beaptort is the antichrist). Ableton live should be left for the live PA's, and maybe routing audio to use to use some EFX on.
chesco, richie is using serrato now.


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djdk
Nutritional Overachiever



Registered: Jul 2003
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
a bag of vinyl, a bag with a laptop in it

whats the difference?


I see what you're saying, but there is a difference if you're putting on a party in a field, or maybe playing at a house party where you're gonna be worried about security. Ive been using FS for 3-4 years now, as well as starting to get to grips with Ableton, but there are still some situations where taking a bag of vinyl is more practical than bringing out the laptop.

I think you're right, the average bod on the dancefloor doesnt give a monkeys what you use to play the music, which should mean that other DJs shouldnt criticise you for your choice. Im sure you've probably recieved a bit of (unjustified) stick from others for playing off a laptop, my point was that it shouldnt swing so far the other way so that people playing off vinyl get similar abuse.


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luisjb82
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: home...

It is rather simple for some of us... play the best music using whatever the hell you want, I don't care if you only have to press 2 buttons in order to achieve that goal, what matters is the music.

The dj's of the future will embrace this technology without knowing how to beatmatch, it's very likely indeed, but they will still need to know how to read the crowd, play the key tracks at the right time, spicing things up, with a nice flow during a set... so many ingredients involved that the hardware being used will be one of the last things on our mind at the dance floor


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

Blake Jarrell ftw


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Blake_Jarrell
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago, IL

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
I see what you're saying, but there is a difference if you're putting on a party in a field, or maybe playing at a house party where you're gonna be worried about security. Ive been using FS for 3-4 years now, as well as starting to get to grips with Ableton, but there are still some situations where taking a bag of vinyl is more practical than bringing out the laptop.

I think you're right, the average bod on the dancefloor doesnt give a monkeys what you use to play the music, which should mean that other DJs shouldnt criticise you for your choice. Im sure you've probably recieved a bit of (unjustified) stick from others for playing off a laptop, my point was that it shouldnt swing so far the other way so that people playing off vinyl get similar abuse.


i agree, swinging too far either way is just ignorant.

as for "beatport is the antichrist" i guess richie hawtin is the devil since he is one of the main investors and a huge supporter of it.


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UWM
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

quote:
Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
as for "beatport is the antichrist" i guess richie hawtin is the devil since he is one of the main investors and a huge supporter of it.


that's quite funny considering bobba lou is one of the biggest m_nus whores around

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nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum

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that's quite funny considering bobba lou is one of the biggest m_nus whores around
bobba is so minimal.. he shrunk

































oh man perhaps the worst joke i have ever told. evar.


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UWM
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

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the worst joke i have ever told. evar.

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nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
rub it in :/


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iammesol
Burnt out and grown up



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
i think with laptops people are more excited again. i get asked almost everytime i play, "hey what is that that youre/hes doing?" "can you show me what you can do with that" "wait this song sounds different, what is he doing with it?" "wow im glad he cut out that 5 minute rediculous breakdown" etc etc



Same here. It seems like every knob I turn people get more and more mezmerized... especially since even an american 'tard who knows nothing about dance music can hear what I'm doing.


In my recent promo (posted here for people who are interested,) I:

1) Cut out a good minute and a half of one song, for sake of the lack of energy it would have

2) added samples that i created with a friend to a track, making it sound more full and increasing its vibe

3)Put an acappella over a track, filtered/redux'd/delayed the acappella..



The possibilities I get with Live just never get old to me. The sky is the limit.










Oh... and ftr, no... that's not all I did

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Ry Diggs
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: New York State's 28th Congressional District..........THE FIGHTIN' 28TH!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by mrmonkey
Nice, you got a tracklist for that? Couple of songs I cant get. Cheers


these are some of the tracks I heard.....


coldplay - talk (junkie xl mix)
cosmos - take me with you
bedrock - heaven scent
benny benassi - satisfaction
forgot the artist - girls & boys
stardust - music sounds better with you
faithless - insomnia
frankie goes to hollywood - two tribes
pet shop boys - miracles (eric prydz mix)
ridgewalkers - find
nalin & kane - beachball
that gay shane 54 mix of that trance song


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