A lot of Nu-NRG's productions reminds me of 99', great stuff.

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I agree that the music may have suffered at the hands of production values in recent years. I don't think the melodies simply aren't as good as they have been.

But to blame the producers :

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For me I think the major element that helped contribute to Trance's decline in quality tracks, is due to the ridiculous availability of cheap tools such as software that allow any new producer to do things the easy way and make a track and start sending out demos.

is silly.

What is the complaint, that there are people making shit music on software because it's available? Sure. What's wrong with people at home making music and posting it on these forums? If you don't like it, say it's shit in the thread but don't attribute that bad song as contributing to 'trance's decline'.

Now if the record labels decide to release shit music, that's bad - it's their job to find the good music, and it's an implicit contract that if you download / paying for a released tune, it should be quality. Released tunes *should* represent the quality of a particular genre, and if bad tunes are being released, that will drag the scene down.

The other problem, and a similar one, is DJs. It's their job to choose good music as well. Otherwise what the hell are they doing, spinning trance doesn't strike me as being that difficult - the skill of trance DJing is in song selection. So if DJs are spinning crap music, blame them and not the producers

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Not liking today's trance doesn't make me narrow minded.

There's far too emphasis on the technical side of trance production and not nearly enough on the musical side imo.

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Psytrance and tech are really catching my attention. Explosion in psy in 2006.

Don't like the music of today?

Dig deeper, and expand your musical pallete.

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Originally posted by pho mo I agree that the music may have suffered at the hands of production values in recent years. I don't think the melodies simply aren't as good as they have been. But to blame the producers : is silly. What is the complaint, that there are people making shit music on software because it's available? Sure. What's wrong with people at home making music and posting it on these forums? If you don't like it, say it's shit in the thread but don't attribute that bad song as contributing to 'trance's decline'. Now if the record labels decide to release shit music, that's bad - it's their job to find the good music, and it's an implicit contract that if you download / paying for a released tune, it should be quality. Released tunes *should* represent the quality of a particular genre, and if bad tunes are being released, that will drag the scene down. The other problem, and a similar one, is DJs. It's their job to choose good music as well. Otherwise what the hell are they doing, spinning trance doesn't strike me as being that difficult - the skill of trance DJing is in song selection. So if DJs are spinning crap music, blame them and not the producers

+1000

Some of these producers today who are *too* engineering oriented may someday realize the soul of a song is the story it tells and the unique way that you use your instruments and soundscapes to get across a state of mind -- a specific energy that makes you more than a producer.

If they make just *one* GREAT track out of a 1000, then you can be sure you'll know their name and hear what their style has to bring to the table. And yes, it's the DJ's job to use whatever venues are open to him -- whether it be vinyl, mp3s, promos, or free shit on the net -- to find those tracks which are gems and play them for us.

That is to say; it's the line between science and art, and that's what makes a song great.


Also...

Is anyone feeling a sour taste in their mouth at the fact that the people who are writing the music (us here in this forum) are saying ridiculous things about how bad the music is nowadays, when we're the one's making it?

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Psytrance and tech are really catching my attention. Explosion in psy in 2006. Don't like the music of today? Dig deeper, and expand your musical pallete.

I like Beethoven, Queen, Jimi Hendrix, The Clash, Paul Weller, The Specials, Old Grey Whistle Test stuff, NWA Legacy (early stuff), Gabber, The Beatles so I think it's pretty safe to say I listen to a wide variety of music.

Why would I dig deep into current trance to find a rare track I like every so often? I don't even know if these hypothetical tracks exist!

I have every trance track I want apart from these 11 from the turn of the millennium:


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=363642

I'm looking forward to getting them so I can relax, forget looking for trance tracks and make my own

I dunno, i kinda love it the way it is. I like the increasing progressive style, and I like trance as it is today.

So yeah, I'm pretty happy about it

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Originally posted by Synchronicity I like Beethoven, Queen, Jimi Hendrix, The Clash, Paul Weller, The Specials, Old Grey Whistle Test stuff, NWA Legacy (early stuff), Gabber, The Beatles so I think it's pretty safe to say I listen to a wide variety of music. Why would I dig deep into current trance to find a rare track I like every so often? I don't even know if these hypothetical tracks exist! I have every trance track I want apart from these 11 from the turn of the millennium: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=363642 I'm looking forward to getting them so I can relax, forget looking for trance tracks and make my own

jaded, lazy, and apathetic?

Feelings hurt because I don't back you up on your posts?


Idiot

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby jaded, lazy, and apathetic?

This is the classic MAKE UP SHIT THAT ISN'T EVEN THERE trick used by some people when their argument is clearly going nowhere!

Jaded?

I'm making an effort to track down old records I like.

Lazy?

See above reply.

Apathetic?

See above reply, and every other post I've made in this thread.


That was the classic MAKE UP SHIT THAT ISN'T EVEN THERE trick used by some people when their argument is clearly going nowhere!

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But to blame the producers : is silly. What is the complaint, that there are people making shit music on software because it's available? Sure. What's wrong with people at home making music and posting it on these forums? If you don't like it, say it's shit in the thread but don't attribute that bad song as contributing to 'trance's decline'. Now if the record labels decide to release shit music, that's bad - it's their job to find the good music, and it's an implicit contract that if you download / paying for a released tune, it should be quality. Released tunes *should* represent the quality of a particular genre, and if bad tunes are being released, that will drag the scene down. The other problem, and a similar one, is DJs. It's their job to choose good music as well. Otherwise what the hell are they doing, spinning trance doesn't strike me as being that difficult - the skill of trance DJing is in song selection. So if DJs are spinning crap music, blame them and not the producers

well said. need i say more

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