man it's frustrating reading this thread...

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Hooligan - Hear You Now (Grand Chillas Mix) (more prog than trance, but very emotional)

hellllll yesssssss

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Originally posted by Floorfiller actually i think trance is one of the least emotional genres... that's why it's so terrible. it tries too hard to be emotional, but it just comes off as stupid...

I fully agree but i have to add "nowdays" to that imo.

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well trance music certainly helps me enforce my motions....

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Originally posted by Ishkur No it's not.

Oh sry i arrived late @ this thread so I make it short:


DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

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Originally posted by Ishkur You have listened to a pitifully minute amount of electronic music in your lifetime.

and your assuming that because?...

What I said was pretty obvious. Whether or not you personally think trance music is emotional is irrelevant. It's the genre of EDM that is more concerned with tugging on the ol' heart strings. Sure there are house tracks that are emotional. Ok maybe a tech track or two can have an emotional impact. But those other genres just arent centered around it like trance is.

Of course everything that I'm saying can't really be proven. It's all very subjective. But that wasn't even the most controversial portion of my post. The real point I was trying to make was that EDM in general has a unique effect on the listener because it is more concerned with effecting the listener in a solitary way. It is not as much concerned with expressing a point of view, which other forms of music seems to do. It's more about playing with the aural playground in a way that causes a certain effect on the listener.

It's of course a generalization but I think it holds true for the majority of EDM. EDM is very unique in this way and it's one of the reasons I love it so.

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Originally posted by Arbalest Oh sry i arrived late @ this thread so I make it short: DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

Warum hast du denn den Onkel Ishkur nicht lieb?

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Originally posted by Cloud I fully agree but i have to add "nowdays" to that imo.

...this is also something that bothers me a bit while reading the forums.


Trance music has not changed since about 1997 or 98. I've listened to it heavily since that period and I think I can objectively say that trance has not dulled/gotten less emotional/become lower quality etc. The basic structure and effect of trance has remained the same. It's you that have changed. It's pretty simple. You just have moved on from getting the same effects that you once had from trance. There's nothing shameful about it. I know I'm assuming a lot about you personally, but I'm actually just speaking about the general attitude on the forums about how trance has "gone downhill", "it has died", "someone killed trance" and so on and so forth.

I cannot speak for before that period because I did not listen to it at all and it has not effected me really in any way. I think though that period, or mabey a bit before, is when trance became the genre it is today. The tracks today are all influence by tracks of that period and beyond. From what I've gathered on the forums and from what I've listened to, trance in the early 90s and earlier was something entirely different than what it is today and it was mostly in state of gestation. So if your talking about trance from that period you are justified in your claims about how trance has changed.

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Originally posted by djmetatron and your assuming that because?... What I said was pretty obvious. Whether or not you personally think trance music is emotional is irrelevant. It's the genre of EDM that is more concerned with tugging on the ol' heart strings. Sure there are house tracks that are emotional. Ok maybe a tech track or two can have an emotional impact. But those other genres just arent centered around it like trance is. Of course everything that I'm saying can't really be proven. It's all very subjective. But that wasn't even the most controversial portion of my post. The real point I was trying to make was that EDM in general has a unique effect on the listener because it is more concerned with effecting the listener in a solitary way. It is not as much concerned with expressing a point of view, which other forms of music seems to do. It's more about playing with the aural playground in a way that causes a certain effect on the listener. It's of course a generalization but I think it holds true for the majority of EDM. EDM is very unique in this way and it's one of the reasons I love it so.

Honestly mate the likes of Ishkur arnt worth rising to on this board. Enjoy the music you enjoy and dont feel you need to justify yourself to anyone let alone a bitter twisted "dance music elitest" like Ishkur

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Originally posted by djmetatron and your assuming that because?... What I said was pretty obvious. Whether or not you personally think trance music is emotional is irrelevant. It's the genre of EDM that is more concerned with tugging on the ol' heart strings.

i think what he meant was that's a pretty narrow view of EDM genres. personally i think downtempo and other similar genres are a lot more emotional than trance. i think he just meant that EDM consists of a lot more than trance, house and techno...

besides all music is emotional...

Last edited by Floorfiller on Sep-26-2006 at 18:43

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Originally posted by Floorfiller besides all music is emotional...

Bingo... and that's pretty much all that needs to be said here.

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