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Originally posted by metalgearsolid ... My favorite has to be Spetznas. They seem really brutal compare to others. I heard that they raided this terrorist base and they cut the heads of the terrorists. Once, they did that they mailed the heads to the family members.

You are idiot. Spetznas is not the best elite squad in Russia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VktQBj1Dm4

British SAS in action. American special forces fucked up at Mazar-e-Sharif fort where 1000's of Taliban prisoners ran amok after killing a CIA interrogator and raided the prisons armoury a lot of Taliban were put 6ft under that day.

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the Canadian JTF2 are one of the worlds best.... longest range confirmed kill in afganistan was a JTF2 sniper..... they are based out of CFB petawawa and the JTF2 "secret" base which happens to be right beside the ottawa international airport lol.....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by star-traveller You are idiot. Spetznas is not the best elite squad in Russia.

Tell us who are than? You are a Russian so you should know, rather than just insulting. Tell him which are best in Russia??

98-01 Former Member of my Marine Logistics Squadron's
Anti-Terrorism Force Protection Team (ATFP), used to
be called Terrorist Neutralization Team (TNT).
New rule at the time was Marine Infantry would not
be in the rear providing us with security anymore.
it was up to us to provide it.

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Rangers elite? they're light infantry... Just cause they're
in SOC doesn't mean they are special operations. They're infantry
who jump out of planes with light weapons. Not that hard to get
jump wings...

Delta, British SAS, Aus SAS, Spetnaz, Israeli's Spec Ops,
SEALs, And U.S. Marine Force Recon (who train SEALs) are
some of the best in the world.

Hard to say who is better, but they're all tough hard as
nails hombres.

Spetnaz surround a building with terrorists who had hostages,
they took a couple of them quietly then dropped their heads
into the place. The terrorists surrendered ASAP.

Both SASs and American Spec Ops were on the ground in Iraq
and Afganistan early on, kudos to them.

Israelis are no joke, they'll hide in the sand of the desert
forever, heat is killer for us. Jungle warfare, well every year
there was a competition in central America between the various
spec ops and the U.S. came too but they never won.

Just so many different combat conditions, terrain, and such that
it's impossible to say who better at what. They all deserve respect.

Just not crazy about rangers called special forces. Marine Infantry
are Heavy Infantry (carry tons of heavy weaponary into a fight) and
are considered 'shock troops'. That's why we're first in the fight &
why we defend our embassies and WMDs. Also have had dedicated
anti-terrorist battalions for over a decade like FAST, Fleet
Anti-Terrorist Security Team, and I believe the 4th Brigade (AT).
We all have MOUT, Military Operations in Urban Terrain, training
as well way before the Army.

Well whatever, we're all brothers and even enemies respect each
other after awhile. A week ago veterans from Pearl Harbor had
an emotional reunion with former Japaneese Pilots who were part
of the attack. Couldn't even think what that must be like...

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS Tell us who are than? You are a Russian so you should know, rather than just insulting. Tell him which are best in Russia??

Team Alpha. The best elite squad in Russia.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp the Canadian JTF2 are one of the worlds best.... longest range confirmed kill in afganistan was a JTF2 sniper..... they are based out of CFB petawawa and the JTF2 "secret" base which happens to be right beside the ottawa international airport lol.....

I thought they were based out of Edmonton??

I know my personal trainer is ex-military, and took his sniper training there...
Maybe that's where they start and then go to Petawawa/Ottawa?

I'll have to ask him...

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC

great post

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC

Well what you said was nice. But I hate to tell you. We here, in Russia and the rest of the world, know that American's no matter what forces they join. Be it Seals or Marines. That doesn't stop them from being a bunch of pussies in battle. I watched the other day on TV a bunch of American soldiers crying just because of gunfire and artillery going off around them. Bunch of pussies. But yeah I give props to the SAS always hard and always strong.

Russian marines are not pussies, but they are a bunch of drunks.
They are ready to drink anything that contains alcohol of a certain level.

ps.
I hate to tell you that too.

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS Well what you said was nice. But I hate to tell you. We here, in Russia and the rest of the world, know that American's no matter what forces they join. Be it Seals or Marines. That doesn't stop them from being a bunch of pussies in battle. I watched the other day on TV a bunch of American soldiers crying just because of gunfire and artillery going off around them. Bunch of pussies. But yeah I give props to the SAS always hard and always strong.

Soldiers... Prob 18yr old nvr been in combat... And you
watched it on TV? I guess you believe everything on TV
and youtube. Ever serve in the military? Ever serve with
Americans? There are plenty that are hard mofos that will
fuck you up and on par with whatever you have.

If the cold war turned into a shooting war without nukes
we all know that russia wouldn't have been able to sustain
a war and would have collapsed. Your current military can
barely eat 3 meals aday lol. USA > Russia and would beat
you in a war even if you had China to back you up.

So yeah, you're saying some soldiers on some 1 min segment
on tv are pussies, yet you must know zip about real life
spec ops personnel even russians to make an ignorant statement
like that. Don't let pride in your country make you an asshole.

EDIT: Artillery is nothing to sneeze at... Unless you've
been under a barrage don't judge others...

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