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| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
I would still disagree.
Basically you said it was OK that USA lowered itself to the Japanese military criminals levels and used a terrible weapon without using the language of dimplomacy first. No excuse for dropping a nuclear weapon. And no excuse for Japanese war atrocities either.
In any case, even if Americans wanted an quicker end to the war - but I will never ever accept that it was the right decision to drop the second nuclear bomb, only days after the first one. American military instead of settling for peace decided to use this terrible weapon to force Japs to surrender.
Oh, and by the way, it was the Americans who armed the Japanese and with American weapons did the Japs commit all the crimes.
Just like the Americans sold military equipment to Nazis before they joined the war. Thats why they were reluctant to enter the war in first place. |
What diplomacy????
They were at WAR.
The Japanese were NEVER going to open up talks in any hint or suggestion of anything BUT victory, their honor-valued system would never allow for it.
Tell me, how does one negotiation with an ideology that won't accept surrender?
Were they supposed to have some sort of epiphany in the middle of it all and get together for tea?
I'd love to live in this post-fairy-tale land in which you live.
You don't have to like what the Allies (let's not single out the U.S. shall we? It was hardly just them involved in this) did but it was effect enough to save lives AND convince the Japanese that they indeed, had no choice.
Why did they do it twice? Because they HAD to.
Other than winning the war, the other great thing that came from it was the total global unwillingness to use such a horrible weapon again.
It was only ever legitimate because it was never used before and there was no opinion on something that never existed before.
You might question of course, well does that make it right?
At the time, yes.
It's easy to look back and suggest they should have never used it, however, taking into consideration the circumstances for what they were at the time, it cores out any argument you want to wrap around the use of the bombs.
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