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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by Aquadyne
About 99% of my posts have been in MWTA

Just keep it at 100% and everyone's happy.


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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Aquadyne
The reason I brought up the "blatantly obvious" is because some of the posters in this very same thread who egged me on to vote in the poll, trying to convince me that it was a benchmark of relevance - are now posting about what a load of bull it is.



Thats unfortunate. But most of us here (including Mikey) have known this to be a joke for quite some time, and treat it as such.


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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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Yuris is skewing facts for the sole purpose of stirring shit in music discussion much in the same way he stirs shit constantly in MWTA. The kid is a clown and should be treated as such.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
He's John Fleming not Charles Dickens. For a DJ he writes reasonably well and his points are valid. I'd rather him articulate those thoughts poorly than not at all...


Yeah, but you don't go around saying bollocks like "Most intelligentest post EVAR" and calling it perfectly written, do you?


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yeah, but you don't go around saying bollocks like "Most intelligentest post EVAR" and calling it perfectly written, do you?



I wouldn't call it perfectly written, no.


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AirPole
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Groningen

I really like what JooF says about the top 100. I agree with him. It should not be about who's the best, but instead the scene should be forming a unity as a whole. Some good things in the text from JooF!

quote:
This chart seems to be dividing clubbing communities at a time when we should all be getting together to rebuild clubland into something it was once. The focus has been taken off the ball, as people are too busy fighting against each other. The poll is now doing more damage then good?


He's right all the way.


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cyzum
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Registered: Jun 2004
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JOOF + 50 points.

The Dj Mag poll is a waste of time from a promoter's point of view. I would never book someone to play at a party of mine based upon that poll. What matters is good music and crowd draw, not a ranking in a easily hackable and flawed voting system.

If DJ Mag cared about the integrity of their voting system, it would be made transparent, the number of votes per dj made public, and the accessability to people of all languages equal.

But in reality, they never would do this. Why? Because I seriously doubt they care about the integrity of the top 100 poll. Having worked in marketing my entire life, I can assure you this is just one big stupid viral marketing scheme just to sell magazines, increase readership, and further their brand.

Hell, even people being pissed off about the poll gets the entire community talking about it. Even bad press, is still good press.

I think that people in the EDM community should band together next year and all vote for 1 person, just to see if the Dj Mag poll actually has any integrity.


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Aquadyne
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quote:
The Dj Mag poll is a waste of time from a promoter's point of view. I would never book someone to play at a party of mine based upon that poll. What matters is good music and crowd draw, not a ranking in a easily hackable and flawed voting system.


Heh, if anything it is not a waste of time from a promoter's eye. It's a goddamn goldmine to those who have the leverage and wingspan to book clubs in excess of a thousand people. Most of people care about rankings and base their shows on them. It's so easy for a promoter to hype that up and roll to the bank with it.

Not saying that it's a good thing, just saying that rankings dictate what Dj's get booked where, how much they get paid, how much ticket prices will be, etc - it's an integral part of the business.

There I go again, pointing out the obvious.

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cyzum
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quote:
Originally posted by Aquadyne
Heh, if anything it is not a waste of time from a promoter's eye. It's a goddamn goldmine to those who have the leverage and wingspan to book clubs in excess of a thousand people. Most of people care about rankings and base their shows on them. It's so easy for a promoter to hype that up and roll to the bank with it.

Not saying that it's a good thing, just saying that rankings dictate what Dj's get booked where, how much they get paid, how much ticket prices will be, etc - it's an integral part of the business.

There I go again, pointing out the obvious.


That couldn't be further from the truth. I've thrown parties at parties with capacity over a thousand and I can assure you, the dj mag 100 poll doesn't mean shit for attendance.

If you have a solid fan base and you play good music - that draws a crowd. Plenty of nights we'd crush it with our attendance with a dj that wasn't in the top 100, and other nights we'd lose our asses on djs that were. That's just how it is.


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Aquadyne
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quote:
Originally posted by cyzum

If you have a solid fan base and you play good music - that draws a crowd.


Really?

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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Aquadyne
Really?



Really.


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

quote:
Originally posted by Aquadyne
Really?


Yes. I can name at least two promoters in Seattle that used to book plenty of big-named DJs, however in the past year they've thrown mostly local-DJ-oriented parties. In that last year, they have drawn a significantly larger crowd at those parties than when they'd book national/international DJs.

You obviously have a lot to learn.

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