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SMC
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I don't think he's a brilliant producer. A lot of the stuff I hear from the Kanye on the radio are sampled from very old records before any of you were even born. He slows them down and modernizes them to fit a hip-hop sound. For example the "Touch The Sky" track for the video Kanye bragged about was sampled from an old RnB record by Curtis Mayfield called Move On Up done in 1970.


Kanye didn't produce Touch The Sky, Just Blaze did. However, sampling oldies or soul tunes and pitch them up or down has been done in hip hop for ages, it's a very hip hop thing, so to speak.

Personally i really like Kanye West, i like his productions, it's good music. He made a tune on Lupe Fiasco's album, "Cool", it's fantastic. I like him as a lyricist too, he doesn't spit the most intricate rhymes or the most clever lyrics but there is just something catchy about his voice and his delivery style, he sounds a bit mindless. Some criticize his flow, or lack of, the way i see it he has a decent flow but you can hear he has like a hard time keeping it up. That way you can feel the effort he puts into what he does, and that gives a genuine feel to his raps.

The music aside, he probably is an idiot, but i can't say i care. I don't like peoples music because of how they are as persons. I don't know the persons of whose music i listen to, i don't want to and i don't need to know them, i don't care.

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by halexander837
EDM > hiphop


Hip-hop is EDM.


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Dilmeet
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i don't see the video ??? actually MTV is destroying the scene, imagin if only a good portion of it was contributed to EDM

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Dilmeet
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HAHAHA i just saw the video, what an IDIOT!! ...Yup this is the hip-hop industry. kayne u blow, gj representing america, u gimp!

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Shamez214
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Hip-hop is EDM.


Boy do I hate when people say that.

Wouldn't rock be EDM as well?


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quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Wouldn't rock be EDM as well?


Nope.

I'm sorry you hate it, it's a fact.


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Shamez214
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nope.

I'm sorry you hate it, it's a fact.


Rock music is made electronically. And people dance to it.


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Yeah, if you call a mixing desk "electronically". And people dancing to it doesn't automatically qualify it as dance music.

You apparently listen to progressive breaks. Where do you think breaks come from, exactly?


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Shamez214
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So... a group like The Roots or Gym Class Heroes. What are they? They are most certainly hip-hop. But are they EDM? They make their beats using live instruments like a rock band does.


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SYSTEM-J
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Well then no, quite obviously. But they're also obviously exceptions to the rule.


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Pete K
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Best I can do - http://wwww.tmz.com/2006/11/03/kanye-to-mtv-you-suck/

MTV Overdrive might have it, but I can't get much from their site since I don't have an updated Flash player on my work computer (and can't install)



try this one


http://www.ifilm.com/video/2784958

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Shamez214
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well then no, quite obviously. But they're also obviously exceptions to the rule.


I just find it silly when hip hop is called EDM. Same thing with pop music. They are their own entities.


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i wish it would just last forever.
and so, to feel like that?
i'd pay any price just to get that back.
*

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