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Would you introduce your children to partying ???
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YES, me and my boy are gonna party all night long! 17 21.52%
HELLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!. I screwd up my own life, no way my child will do the same. 32 40.51%
What kids???? Im gonna act like a 20 year old for the rest of my life! 30 37.97%
Total: 79 votes 100%
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zokissima
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by psiico111
Here's why: my parents divorced when I was 2 and I was raised by my dad until I turned 16 then I moved in with my mother. My dad pretended to be this upstanding citizen who never did anything wrong whereas my mother was always open and honest about things. To this day I see my dad as a joke and my mother as someone to respect.

Why would you see your dad as a joke? He did his best to raise you with good morals by setting a positive example. People always expect a lot out of their parents, but never once seriously sit down and realize that they are individual human beings with unique emotions and motivations, just as the kids who are constantly judging them. It takes a lot to raise a kid, especially from the age of 2 to 16, and you take HIM for a joke?
Anyone see the implications here.....???


As for me, I voted for the last option, but I find the poll kinda inapplicable. I'd never introduce my kids to the scene, nor would I introduce it to drugs. When I do have kids, I play to speak to them constantly, not lecture, but on even terms, honestly, about everything they ask. But some things I myself will not expose them to, I will merely inform, from my own experiences, including both good and bad.

As for those adamantly claiming to not have kids because of the world and everything in it, I'm afraid I can't agree to those motivations. Maybe we're too childish and don't have the time, but to claim the WORLD as responsible for children, I find a stupid argument. The world can't change THAT much in the forseeable future, and I'm sure that we all enjoy our existence, such as it is. Why not share that life, and educate. The most active role anyone will play in a childs life is the parent. All they have to do is just WANT to be a part of the childs life.
On that note, kids and parents having close relationships is very cool. But sometimes, like samhouse, IMO it can be too close. It can be argued that you've had a parental security blanket over you your whole life. I'm sure you'll disagree, but consider that one large part of growing up is the strength of character to deal with certain discoveries on one's own.
And as for all of us waiting to have kids (which group I myself am a part of) consider that our parents probably had us at a much younger age, yet how many would not want to be around now? Says something about our own strengths of character that we've become so self-centered in just one generation.

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Moral Hazard
Oppressing the 99%



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: with the 1%

I doubt I would introduce my kids to it, however, if I found out they were I'd make sure they do it right. Let's face it, kids will do what they want, I'd rather my kids do it safely. Besides, I've got lots of wisdom to pass down on this subject.


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Moral Hazard
Oppressing the 99%



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: with the 1%

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
if they are going to do them then they are going to do them....nothing I say or do can stop that. I would want them to be knowledgable about what they are getting into.


If either of our kids get into drugs I think an evening with their dad, uncle and an 8-ball is in order.... for educational purposes of course.


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Lightshow
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Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Toronto

If i have a kid today, im gonna be 40 when he turns 19...but if im still in the scene at 40 there is no way im introducing my kid to it, when i go out to party ill be going on "business trips" once or twice a month. and other then the occasional "dont do drugs, and behave speech", if i find out that my kid is dropping Es and going to sketchy places like CZ (which i love), im gonna throw a shit fit, he's gonna get a "do as i say, dont do as i do speech", and then ill ask him how much he is paying for his shit and tell him i can get him a much better deal.

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Jem_hadar
I remember...



Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
To a degree, I agree.

Might be a cultural thing, but if my sister does something stupid, I'm the first one to slap her in the head.


Def a cultural thing I couldnt care less if my bro does something stupid or not. More power to him to do as he pleases.

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The Wiz
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Def a cultural thing I couldnt care less if my bro does something stupid or not. More power to him to do as he pleases.


Disagree- not cultural at all


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iLLnaDa
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal

quote:
Originally posted by Killah Monkey
Probably one of the best votes I have seen so far.

I will not be partying when or if I do have kids. Once I enter into parenthood, that will end this part of my life. I expect I will still go out once in a while, but only consuming a few alcoholic beverages.

Being a parent is alot of responsibility and I would not bring a child into this world where they are exposed to sketchy mondays and all night events on a regular basis. That just invites bad things to happen.

I am sure that if this was the road they wanted to choose and party as I have, then that is their choice without my own influences.


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

quote:
Originally posted by The Wiz
Disagree- not cultural at all


ok, i just dont care about my brother as much as you care abouut yours Hils

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The Wiz
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto

haha!


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psiico111
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto, Ont

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Why would you see your dad as a joke? He did his best to raise you with good morals by setting a positive example. People always expect a lot out of their parents, but never once seriously sit down and realize that they are individual human beings with unique emotions and motivations, just as the kids who are constantly judging them. It takes a lot to raise a kid, especially from the age of 2 to 16, and you take HIM for a joke?
Anyone see the implications here.....???


Perhaps joke was the wrong word, I had a hard time taking his holier then thou speeches seriously because I knew he was full of it. I knew his friends, people he hung out with since he was a teen and younger and I knew what they were into. Truth is, I just don't like my dad much, never did. I won't get into why here because it doesn't matter much for this topic or at my age.

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
As for those adamantly claiming to not have kids because of the world and everything in it, I'm afraid I can't agree to those motivations. Maybe we're too childish and don't have the time, but to claim the WORLD as responsible for children, I find a stupid argument. The world can't change THAT much in the forseeable future, and I'm sure that we all enjoy our existence, such as it is. Why not share that life, and educate. The most active role anyone will play in a childs life is the parent. All they have to do is just WANT to be a part of the childs life.


That's not why I don't want kids. It's part of it but I suppose in truth it's a cop out. For one thing, I'm 36 now and single. Even if I met someone tommorow it'd probably be 4 or 5 years before I got married (I believe in taking it slow - having your parents get married 3 times each will do that to you) and then another 3 or 4 before having kids. I'd be just about too old to have kids by then, too tired and not enough energy. But mostly I just don't want the responsibility. My parents screwed up with us, what would make me think I could do any better? It's not like I had good parental role models to learn from. Neither of my brothers talk to anyone in the family anymore - including me but not because of anything I've done, I'm the only one who speaks to our parents still. I'd prefer to find a woman who already has a kid or two and doesn't want more, that way I can skip the crying baby stage and if the kids turn out messed up it won't be my fault since they probably won't listen to me anyway.


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Jem_hadar
I remember...



Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

quote:
Originally posted by The Wiz
haha!


Jon Jon = cooler than Jarred lol

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chinamon
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Markham, ON

quote:
Originally posted by psiico111
My parents screwed up with us, what would make me think I could do any better? It's not like I had good parental role models to learn from.


that is total bullshit.
my dad left china when he was 7 to come to canada and stayed with his uncle and cousins that treated him like shit and like a slave. they tried their best to keep him out of school so he could work at their restaurant. my dad ended up graduating high school and getting his bacelor of science and bachelor of pharmacology to become a pharmacist. he too didnt have parental role models but i didnt turn out all fucked up (maybe just a little but isnt everyone?). where theres a will, theres a way. you just dont have the will.


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