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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I see. Could you give a one-sentence summary of your metaphysical views? Thanks.

I often worry that the both the subjectivity and narrow perspective of human experience inhibits us from ever understanding what is truly real in any sense other than that which is perceived by our senses.

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Originally posted by tubularbills lol, stay in wiscoland, cause you won' get paid shit in chicago. haha

We're hoping to move out to the Pacific Northwest pretty quickly after I graduate, but who knows, it could take a couple years.

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Yup - But there are TONS of them out there, and they aren't all religious

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RJT, you should be the poster-child of the fact that you can still be a pothead and excel in school...I'm sick of people telling me I'm going to be stupid and not be able to make it through college if I smoke weed, jeesh.

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Originally posted by tranceDJ RJT, you should be the poster-child of the fact that you can still be a pothead and excel in school...I'm sick of people telling me I'm going to be stupid and not be able to make it through college if I smoke weed, jeesh.

lol - perhaps, but it has gotten in my way at times when I really needed to be motivated.

In reality, I'm just self medicating/managing a serious anxiety problem. So it works for me maybe moreso than others.

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21 credits and djing and cor whoring. Goddamn man.

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Originally posted by RJT I could make a pretty strong argument that philosophers are the only true scientists left Well, them and mad scientists. Mad scientists always be keepin' it real.

Nah man I was a philosophy major for two years until I had a moment of clarity and switched to chemistry. For you to say that philosophy is a science hurts me inside very deeply.

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Originally posted by Protege 21 credits and djing and cor whoring. Goddamn man.

heh, and a girlfriend too! although i'm pretty low-maintenance...

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Originally posted by Zild Nah man I was a philosophy major for two years until I had a moment of clarity and switched to chemistry. For you to say that philosophy is a science hurts me inside very deeply.

Philosophy is more a science than modern chemistry is.

It's intellectually pure, in stark opposition to the suspicious motivations behind modern chemistry

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So you're saying that since we build bombs for the government to drop on Iraqi children that we're bad? Pfft.

But seriously philosophy is like science except without absolutely no experimentation which makes it not science at all. Just a bunch of old farts sitting around bullshitting each other.

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Originally posted by Zild So you're saying that since we build bombs for the government to drop on Iraqi children that we're bad? Pfft.

Not in the least. What I am saying, however, is that modern chemistry suffers from the problem of funding - The money necessary to take part in cutting edge chemistry comes on the heels of different motivations, some of which may be seen as highly dubious depending on your perspective. My hypothesis is simply that when science isn't practiced for the sake of "knowing," it becomes something other than "pure" science.

Also please note that I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing in the modern world - With the technologies we have that are capable of destroying mankind, the uncensored practice of science would most likely have devesatating ramifications for human society.

Also, insofar as your assertion that Philosophy isn't a science because it doesn't have any experimentation, I'd most certainly disagree. First, the idea that science requires strict experimentation is a figment of the illusion that is how science is taught in much of the western world; Simply that "science" cannot be practiced without the scientific method. Unfortunately, if this is how you define science, then you're also excluding psychology, sociologoy, much of geology, and archaeology as sciences - Which doesn't seem to me to be a reasonable proposition (however I'm well aware of the difference in opinion on the matter).

I will concede to you, however, that "thought experiments" and debate are pehaps not viewed by the majority of the world as at all scientific, however if you look at the way philosophers reason and ration out many of the problems they tackle, striking paralells can be drawn to how "science" is practiced, even withint he scientific method.

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