Look lazy people are not the problem. It is the parasites who will take advantage of the system. And it wouldn't matter where it is. Using welfare and section 8 is really easy. And the government couldn't care who it is. Just come in and say you can't work and BOOM! You will have a free ride on every one elses expense.
I consider myself lazy. FYI. But I know I don't want anything from the government. Rather, I just mouch of my parents. But! I do do work around the house and the apartments. And trust me, some tenants are dirty as fuck and assholes. Right now. We have this parasite who says he "felled" through one of the six holes in the apartment due to neglience and he wants compensation. That guy is a parasite and he is on sec 8 and is using any welfare possible to take money out of the system without having to do any work.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt

Capitalizt, why don't you say something yourself, instead of letting someone do it for you. I've replied twice since you've posted and the only thing you can come up with is, "Pwned"?

He didn't do shit. And "Rhuckus" (Ruckus), I never said I was in the public eye, I'm not. I work very closely with those in the public eye, and they review everything they are about to say, because if said wrong, it might ruin them.

And there are many corporations overseas because the WTO has made it unbelievably easy for them to exploit over in another country. And taxes are fairly lenient right now, and certainly not high enough for myself to be satisfied, but yet... there is still outsourcing? That kind of shits all over your idea that higher taxes lead to more outsourcing, because they will do it regardless.

The UAE has high taxes, is a very rich country, and has great social programs, I look up to them.

I'm tired of arguing. You people aren't worth anything... no matter how much money you have.

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fyi marc, I didn't reply because others in this thread replied first, and dissected your logic much better than I could have done. I admit that.

And here is an article you may find interesting:

a little truth about "outsourcing".

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Originally posted by Capitalizt a little truth about "outsourcing".

This was linked on the page. Lincoln Unmasked: What You're Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe and
The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War

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In this blockbuster, Thomas DiLorenzo calls for a complete rethinking of a central icon of American historiography. He looks at the actions and legacy of Abe Lincoln from an economics point of view to show that Lincoln's main interest was not in opposing slavery but in advancing mercantilism, inflationism, and government spending: the "American system" of Henry Clay.

Nice one.

EDIT: I'm not steering away from the subject. I'm saying that I won't believe a web page that has shit linked on it.

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hmm let's see

1. Greater enforcement of immigration policies and better border protection. Punish the corporations that hire illegals.

2. Improve education - altho I'm not quite sure how, lol. I dont trust teachers entirely so I wouldn't say "just increase teacher's wages"...

3. Make prostitution and marijuana legal, and as the OP already said, treat drug addiction/use as a health concern and not a criminal problem.

4. As metalgear said, instead of creating cities that are more spread out, start building more centralized cities.

5. Improve foreign relations with other countries.

6. Do something about the homeless situation in this country...force the lazy ones to work, and the mental cases (which constitute a large chunk of the homeless population) should be placed in mental institutions and treated.

7. Focus attention on newer sources of energy and protecting the environment.

8. Try to get third world countries to bring their population growth rates under control!!

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Capitalizt, why don't you say something yourself, instead of letting someone do it for you. I've replied twice since you've posted and the only thing you can come up with is, "Pwned"? He didn't do shit. And "Rhuckus" (Ruckus), I never said I was in the public eye, I'm not. I work very closely with those in the public eye, and they review everything they are about to say, because if said wrong, it might ruin them.

Yet you won't bother to own up to your own rhetoric, you just shift targets then begin with the ad hominem?

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And there are many corporations overseas because the WTO has made it unbelievably easy for them to exploit over in another country. And taxes are fairly lenient right now, and certainly not high enough for myself to be satisfied, but yet... there is still outsourcing? That kind of shits all over your idea that higher taxes lead to more outsourcing, because they will do it regardless.

1. Don't begin paragraphs with conjunctions.
2. The WTO making business profitable elsewhere in the world by allowing business to take advantage of lower taxes and labor costs has definately wooed corporations away from the US. Good point! lower taxes attract corporations and provide warrant to my claims.
3. Don't begin sentences in the middle of your paragraph with conjunctions either.
4. You advocate in this lengthy and intriguingly poorly written second sentence that outsourcing currently occurs under the prohibitive taxes within the US. That is quite a good call captain obvious. Do you have a point other than the one on top of your head?
5. Don't dangle participles
6. As taxes have increased, outsourcing has increased. The fact that there was outsourcing to begin with and it was then exascerbated by increased taxes proves, rather than "shits on" the basic principle that putting out a fire with gasoline is a fools errand.

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The UAE has high taxes, is a very rich country, and has great social programs, I look up to them.

The UAE exports a huge surplus of oil at a great profit. If you're willing to allow drilling in ANWAR, and derricks off Martha's Vineyard and Puget Sound, then i think you should feel free to use the profits from that oil to fund social programs. However, as long as Sen. Kennedy is still shooting down the drilling off the East Coast, and the democrats are blocking ANWAR drilling, please stop spending MY money purchasing voters for YOUR cause.

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I'm tired of arguing. You people aren't worth anything... no matter how much money you have.

So you're not at all fatigued by flaming and spouting claims without warrant, but when you are required to support your vaccuous rhetoric, you first plead lack of stamina and then resume ad hominem attacks? If what you say is not important enough to you for you to back it up with logic and argument, why waste the bandwidth and subject the rest of us to your lack of grammatical prowess?

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Originally posted by Rhuckus Yet you won't bother to own up to your own rhetoric, you just shift targets then begin with the ad hominem? 1. Don't begin paragraphs with conjunctions. 2. The WTO making business profitable elsewhere in the world by allowing business to take advantage of lower taxes and labor costs has definately wooed corporations away from the US. Good point! lower taxes attract corporations and provide warrant to my claims. 3. Don't begin sentences in the middle of your paragraph with conjunctions either. 4. You advocate in this lengthy and intriguingly poorly written second sentence that outsourcing currently occurs under the prohibitive taxes within the US. That is quite a good call captain obvious. Do you have a point other than the one on top of your head? 5. Don't dangle participles 6. As taxes have increased, outsourcing has increased. The fact that there was outsourcing to begin with and it was then exascerbated by increased taxes proves, rather than "shits on" the basic principle that putting out a fire with gasoline is a fools errand.

AND..."exascerbated"? haha, *exacerbated*, tool.

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The UAE exports a huge surplus of oil at a great profit. If you're willing to allow drilling in ANWAR, and derricks off Martha's Vineyard and Puget Sound, then i think you should feel free to use the profits from that oil to fund social programs. However, as long as Sen. Kennedy is still shooting down the drilling off the East Coast, and the democrats are blocking ANWAR drilling, please stop spending MY money purchasing voters for YOUR cause.

I don't want drilling either. Oil is fool's gold anyway, you will find out soon enough.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt The sad fact is that there are many people in this world not willing to put in the extra effort required to succeed...to work beyond a typical 9-5, or to educate themselves in any new areas that may make them more valuable to an employer. They are perfectly content with mediocrity and this is why they don't prosper...NOT because "the system" didn't give them a fair shake at things.

But then would you consider someone who didn't care about prospering at their as not successful. Is sucess, for you, measured by someone's wealth or job rank. What if someone is perfectly content at their job by doing the minimum and have no desire to put in the extra work because they have no want to make their jobs their life.

Especially in the US, someone who "works to live" is looked down upon as unseccesful. People who "live to work," who basically surround their lives with their work are looked at as having a very successful life. In the US free-market system, you are only measured by your wealth, and the level of happiness is measured by how much you have, ie. things, money, big house. Quantity, not quality, is the language for Americans.

you're all a bunch of lazy ****s since you visit this forum so often!

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 4. As metalgear said, instead of creating cities that are more spread out, start building more centralized cities.

Presidents build cities now?

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Presidents build cities now?

lol...what i meant was, try to focus on building such cities...lol

well if I were president i'd walk in Bill Clinton's shoes....nothing wrong with sucky sucky

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