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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Prof Fernandez-Armesto, that spanish or portugese?

There's a linguistic clash in his name: "-ez" is a Spanish ending, but a pure Spanish name would've dropped the initial "F" (whereas Portuguese would've kept it).

My instinct says it's Spanish, as it doesn't look like modern Portuguese at all, and surnames tend to be more conservative.


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venomX
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
There's a linguistic clash in his name: "-ez" is a Spanish ending, but a pure Spanish name would've dropped the initial "F" (whereas Portuguese would've kept it).

My instinct says it's Spanish, as it doesn't look like modern Portuguese at all, and surnames tend to be more conservative.


The Fernandez is definitely spanish, it's quite common in some countries. The tricky part is the Armesto. I have never encountered a last name like this one. It's the 'Arm' combination at the beginning is not used frequently for last names in spanish.


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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

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Originally posted by venomX
The Fernandez is definitely spanish, it's quite common in some countries. The tricky part is the Armesto. I have never encountered a last name like this one. It's the 'Arm' combination at the beginning is not used frequently for last names in spanish.


I thought Armesto was a variation of Arnesto.


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Leaves it as two possibilities I guess, the journalist couldnt spell them or he has a hyphenated last name due to a hot tempered spanish missus not wanting to give up hers, with a 'double barreled' surname they tend to keep the mans last in most cases.

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I thought Armesto was a variation of Arnesto.

I still have never encountered a surname like that, or any variation of one that resembles that one. Oh well, you never know maybe it was some really really small town in spain like my surname No one pronounces it right, and what i mean by that is that when they read it they say another surname that is sort of like it but more common. It's a bit annoying :P


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Poor guy, he get's his ass beaten by pigs and were debating whether or not his last name is Spanish, LOL.


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Fuck that guy. I've been pinned down the the ground and beaten by police, but I didn't get any sympathy only criminal charges.


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Lilith
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Well that'll learn you for not having a foreign sounding name!

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Fuck that guy. I've been pinned down the the ground and beaten by police, but I didn't get any sympathy only criminal charges.


You got my sympathy Zild . And respect for standing your ground and not fearing the consequences .


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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