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Originally posted by all-nite-freak This is just another one of those threads that reinforce that the end of the human race is upon us.When taking care of ones offspring becomes a question of subjectivity it has gone way too fucking far.All this free thought makes me wish the commies took over.That way we could still live in an era where you hate your wife but stay together and send the kids the college.Leave it to Beaver,Spousal Abuse,Housewife Drunkeness and Reefer Madness videos need to make a comeback.I wish i was Brendan Frasier in that movie where he is a total knob but in the end bangs the hot chick.(wait thats all his movies) Vote Nader

'commies' don't ignore logic as much as you would like them to as a general rule.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak This is just another one of those threads that reinforce that the end of the human race is upon us.When taking care of ones offspring becomes a question of subjectivity it has gone way too fucking far.

I think that holding people responsible for choices they did not make, even choices to which they objected strenuously, is going too far.

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Originally posted by Psy-T 'commies' don't ignore logic as much as you would like them to as a general rule.

stop being so anal and let me have my inebrieted rants.I work in a field involving this subject, so as smart as you are, i am sorry logic isn't always prevelant.So let me be high and want to be Brendan Frasier, so i can go back to dealing with the sad cases I see have so many human flaws it makes you wish for the world to become gattica.It scares the shit out of me really.I myself do not consider myself the epitome of moral fiber, but when i fucking see the lenghts people go to not to take care of should be their most prized possesion and legacies it makes me go fucking bongo.I eat pills for breakfast.
Thank you.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak ...but when i fucking see the lenghts people go to not to take care of should be their most prized possesion and legacy it makes me go fucking bongo.

It must be maddening to you when women give their offspring up for adoption.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles And in the case of an embryo, there would be no cellular activity after a brief period if it were not for the woman's support.

hmm... that's actually a very good point.

However, as far as I know it, the woman provides nutrients the same way food keeps us alive - without food (which in this case comes from the mother), we wouldn't live either, would we?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Sure they do, until all oxygenated blood is completely stripped of oxygen. Why not hook the finger up to a machine and keep it alive?

Wouldn't the finger also need to...

1. Have nutrients;
   
2. Expel waste products;
   

... in order to live? If the finger had the ability of regenerating its parts so it could perform these functions, then it would eventually be someone else (which would result in an asexual reproduction by division). However, fingers are hopeless, given the fact that they can't even adapt, so to speak.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles If we are speaking of nervous activity, which is really the only relevant thing here, then early embryos have just as little as severed fingers do.

No, no nervous activity being mentioned here

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Originally posted by Psy-T what MrJiveBoJingles said oh, and btw, what's so spontaneous about it? if the mother dies, the embryo will not continue developing, will it? if the mother doesn't adjust her diet to the fact she is pregnent will the embryo continue developing as well as an embryo of a mother who does change her diet? if the mother doesn't stop smoking/drinking/etc due to her pregnancy will the embryo continue developing as well as an embryo of a mother who does stop doing those things?

Like I said, the mother is to the child what food is to us. If there's no food, we won't keep living either. If we eat junk food, we will face some problems.

The spontaneity in it is that you don't need to "develop" the child (as in add parts as if it were an auto mobile).

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles It must be maddening to you when women give their offspring up for adoption.

I don't deal with that.My job cosists of doing feeler interviews and research to save the legal department from having to in source too much at a higher cost.The things i hear people say or the things that come up in my background evals and checks are fucking nuts.More fucked up people seem to be having kids than balanced ones.This will play a major affect and already has in today and the futures society.STEP fucking one to avoid this is to TAKE CARE OF YOUR SEED.If you are gona nut up...man up.End of story.We owe it to ourselves and our children to try and slow the pace in which respect and order with those who will replace us is non existent.Fuck im high....

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Originally posted by Lira Like I said, the mother is to the child what food is to us. If there's no food, we won't keep living either. If we eat junk food, we will face some problems.

so our parents owe it to us to provide us with food no matter the circumstances?

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Originally posted by Psy-T so our parents owe it to us to provide us with food no matter the circumstances?

Damn right! lol.

What mother denies her child food?

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Originally posted by Lira Wouldn't the finger also need to... Have nutrients; Expel waste products; ... in order to live?

All cells can do this. If provided with nutrified and oxygenated blood and a certain amount of electricity, a finger would do this on the cellular level.

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Originally posted by Psy-T so our parents owe it to us to provide us with food no matter the circumstances?

Well, they were quite aware of the fact that we're a consequence of a choice of theirs, aren't they?

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i cant understand why any man would NOT want to help his own offspring. even if the pregnancy wasnt planned its still his kid . period.