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Derivative
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

quote:
Originally posted by CReddick
You've got to remember that 95% of anyone who lurks these types of sites aren't big or successful music producers... so what the hell do they know. you won't find me posting test mixes on here anytime soon.


And just like Unripelemon says, there are big name producers that don't know shit either. Mainly because its their team of engineers and/or producers that are pulling the strings. It doesn't matter who you are - its what you know thats important. Thats why forums like this are so awesome - it makes it easier for people who know things that you don't to pool together and share knowledge. Hell mysticalninja (of all people) helped me crack that horrendous nagging in the back of my head 'how the fuck was the bassdrum for Suburban Train made?' I synthesize bassdrums in part because of it. He ain't Sasha but his knowledge sure is welcome.

I don't care if you are a noname mr anonymous - if you post some advice in this thread on some scientific aspect of sound design and you are 100% right, as a consequence making my mixes better, you are the fucking don and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'll return the favour someday.

Conversely, you could be Tijs and I guess it would be flattering having him post in your thread but to be honest, I don't value his opinion on sound design all that much - at least not after he did that interview where he said something along the lines of 'I make the bassline sound so fat by increasing the release knob.'

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Old Post Mar-09-2007 13:39  Ireland
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Drik
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Boras, Sweden
Re: How did you learn what you know?

quote:
Originally posted by DJMiakoda
Simple question about your music producing abilities...

how did you learn everything you presently know and how long did it take you to get to where you're presently at?

Be honest.


I've only been running E:mortal for two years now, but I'd hardly say thats the time it took me.

A more accurate guess is basically all my life, it all stacks up.
Was a huge fan of music when I was a kid, my family loved music as well, my uncle had tons of instruments that I used to play around with. I loved music class, my teacher realized this and taught me even more about music, I have a lot to thank him for.
When I got my amiga I started pounding away tunes at that, I probably made over 200 tracks on it. When I got my macintosh I had more channels to use, so I could try out more complicated compositions. When I got my pc I started with Reason, learning the basics on how a studio works, then I moved onto Cubase. I bought my studio, learned the gear, learned the software...
But the studio gear and software are just tools really, what makes the music is all the experiences I've had in my life up until now and I feel I have tons more to learn.


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Old Post Mar-10-2007 19:06  Sweden
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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

If you think that I'm approaching 36 this summer.

Been a DJ since I was 14.
Played Guitar and drums since I was 17
And been messing around with Floops for about 4 years.

From picking up floops to getting signed took me about 4 years in total. But I have my music knowledge of past songwriting experiences to thank for the transition.

I have learnt things from this forum, mainly from back in the day when you had a lot of guys who went pro here. Sadly you don't see enough of them but I understand why. Basicallly when you start producing for labels it starts to eat up your time not to mention that you can't share the music. You still have some great talent here though and people still make some very valid comments.

I also thank Computer music magazine which has taught me stacks about mixdowns and mastering.

The point is that trial and error isn't simply enough but it is a great way of getting ideas. Ultimately there still has to be some method to your madness and reading as much as you can is hihgly recomended.

Cheers
Nem

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44


The point is that trial and error isn't simply enough but it is a great way of getting ideas. Ultimately there still has to be some method to your madness and reading as much as you can is hihgly recomended.

I've never read a single tutorial in my life and I don't plan to either (well, it'd be a bit pointless now anyway but you get my drift). It's just frustrating as hell and doesn't seem to get me anywhere - that's why I never particularily enjoyed school either. I need to get my hands on things, I've always learned much quicker that way.

Then again I've always been lucky enough to be able to collaborate with a lot of talented people and seeing how they have worked has helped me quite a lot. I made a huge leap forward after teaming up with Mart, not necessarily because he was more technically advanced but because his ideas were so different to mine.


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I've never read a single tutorial in my life and I don't plan to either (well, it'd be a bit pointless now anyway but you get my drift). It's just frustrating as hell and doesn't seem to get me anywhere - that's why I never particularily enjoyed school either. I need to get my hands on things, I've always learned much quicker that way.

Then again I've always been lucky enough to be able to collaborate with a lot of talented people and seeing how they have worked has helped me quite a lot. I made a huge leap forward after teaming up with Mart, not necessarily because he was more technically advanced but because his ideas were so different to mine.


Actually, that is a very good point. Although I actually didn't do well at school I have had to read up as I haven't really worked with that many people.
But it is as Mr.Mystery says, if you work with people you will also learn stacks of stuff.

I guess the point is that there as many ways to learn what you know as there are people doing this stuff.

Cheers
Nem


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Old Post Mar-13-2007 10:36  United Kingdom
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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

When I started making music, i actually thought the tempo of the track changed during the build up and climax, and my tracks went to like from 130-140 BPM. not until a DJ actually told me: "hey, whats with your track, it changes speed, tracks dont change speed, dude."

I also remember fiddling with the kick and hats until i realised, the hats were to be placed in the middle.

Haha, that was a long time ago, but.. everything i learned I tought myself, and by listening to others.

I`ve tried reading alot of tutorials and stuff, about alot of things, It just dont stick to my head. Trial, terror and tips, thats the way to go!

Although, what i wished more than anything, would have been piano training, and being able to learn to play and read music.. most often its those who has the most success. Me, im just a mouseician.


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