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igottaknow
PerfectTeeth R4 Dinosaurs



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Neo
i guess that would depend on emissions and noise laws where you live.

The only real difficulty in changing it out is freeing the old muffler from the rest of the system, putting a new one on is a 10 minute job

I got a second opinion and the other shop wanted $320 to replace the muffler. So I decided to do it myself. Wrong decision, everything that could go wrong did.

1. One of the bolts snapped while trying to loosen it. Now I need to take it to a shop to have them use a torch to loosen it.

2. The new oem muffler doesn't fit properly. There's a 2 inch gap between it and the center pipe. I presume that the center pipe was replaced previously with a generic pipe from a muffler shop so it doesn't work with an oem muffler.

The car is really loud and I can't drive it around like that so now I've got to go back to the muffler place pay then whatever they want and return the parts I bought.

Cor short vers: I lose.

Honda: 1
IGK: 0

Last edited by igottaknow on May-02-2007 at 23:32

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I got a second opinion and the other shop wanted $320 to replace the muffler. So I decided to do it myself. Wrong decision, everything that could go wrong did.

1. One of the bolts snapped while trying to loosen it. Now I need to take it to a shop to have them use a torch to loosen it.

2. The new oem muffler doesn't fit properly. There's a 2 inch gap between it and the center pipe. I presume that the center pipe was replaced previously with a generic pipe from a muffler shop so it doesn't work with an oem muffler.

The car is really loud and I can't drive it around like that so no I've got to go back to the muffler place pay then whatever they want and return the parts I bought.

Cor short vers: I lose.

Honda: 1
IGK: 0

LOL what did i tell you! take that shit to a professional! unless its an aftermarket exhaust (read: performance exhaust) its not as easy as it appears!

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igottaknow
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
LOL what did i tell you! take that shit to a professional! unless its an aftermarket exhaust (read: performance exhaust) its not as easy as it appears!
thx mr after the fact guy. you didn't make that opinion known until now.

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Lilith
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Registered: Nov 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
LOL do it right. go to midas.


doh...


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igottaknow
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quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
doh...



would have be nice if he elaborated on why not to do it yourself. this is the longest "10 minute" job I've ever embarked on.

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gehzumteufel
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
thx mr after the fact guy. you didn't make that opinion known until now.

igk: i remember that thread (or was it in this thread?) i specifically said "go to midas. do it right!" dont make me find it either.

edit//just saw lilith quote me.

and honestly ANYTHING with piping = pain in the ass!

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igottaknow
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
igk: i remember that thread (or was it in this thread?) i specifically said "go to midas. do it right!" dont make me find it either.

edit//just saw lilith quote me.

and honestly ANYTHING with piping = pain in the ass!

i learned my lesson the hard way. i wouldn't have tried it if neo hadn't said it was a simple job.

i re-thought the problem. i might just buy a new oem center pipe for $68. that will solve the snapped bolt and gap between the pipes. of course the bolts connecting the center to the front could be seized too.

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Lilith
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i wouldn't have tried it if neo hadn't said it was a simple job.

I think he just wanted to see you suffer really

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igottaknow
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Originally posted by Lilith
I think he just wanted to see you suffer really
i should fly out there just to choke him

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spiflicated
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Registered: Mar 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i learned my lesson the hard way. i wouldn't have tried it if neo hadn't said it was a simple job.


It is a simple job, if you know what you're doing.

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igottaknow
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quote:
Originally posted by spiflicated
It is a simple job, if you know what you're doing.

my anti-seize magic wand wasn't working and i forgot look into my crystal ball to see the pipes wouldn't attach properly

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650Raddict
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Never posted before but since this is my expertise thought i'd pipe up.

The 87/91 Rating that you see is 87, the number you see at the gas pump and 91 is the RON rating. the 87 number comes from something like averaging RON and another number to get your average of 87. Why they put the RON rating is beyond me. Over at sportbikes.net we get a billion of these posts about that rating and people not knowing wth it really means. so there ya go.

87 octane actually burns faster than 91 or 93 or whatever, the higher the rating the slower the burning and more resistant to pinging or engine knock it is. So if you run 93 in an engine designed to run on 87 your not only wasting money but losing performance and economy.

Now before you say, "but my car's faster on 93!! So shutup you nub." It can very well run faster on 93 or whatever than 87 even if its designed for 87. The reason being is that your engine will accumulate carbon buildup on the pistons and that will raise your compression. That can cause knock which in turn your ECU will detect and start retarding your engine timing so you end up with a good loss in performance. So when you run a higher octane you eliminate your knock and so you get your timing back.

Also i saw someone say to unplug your battery to reset your ECU so that it'll relearn everything for new gas or whatever it was about. You should never have to do that unless you just put some monster turbo on the thing. The whole system constantly updates itself 100's if not 1000's of times a second once in closed loop. The whole map thing is for open loop, when the car isnt warmed up yet and it cant get an accurate reading from the O2 sensor. It's also as a reference usually, for say, when you slam the throttle, the O2 sensor's not as quick as we'd like it and it will give a good estimate to what it should do before the O2 sensor catches up. Of course the map is usually updated every so often too, like every so often times the motor is ran.

Hope that made some sense. Now your that much smarter.

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