it's funny you guys criticize this aspect of the mix, because drama in a mix is one of the defining aspects of a good mix for me. i find it easier to create drama in a live set when there is a crowd - maybe when i am in a closed studio recording a cd mix i lose it.
its this sort of thing which makes me realize i was right when i said it was trying too hard... maybe think a little less about the next one and feel a little more? from what you said it seems like u took a loooong time planning out the TL... maybe try a something a little more improvised
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Jul-15-2007 17:47
all-nite-freak
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Moved from death Row to TA Paris Hillton Prison
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Originally posted by Allied Nations
its this sort of thing which makes me realize i was right when i said it was trying too hard... maybe think a little less about the next one and feel a little more? from what you said it seems like u took a loooong time planning out the TL... maybe try a something a little more improvised
greg no offense, but he does this using decks and you do it using ableton studio mode. I loved the last mix you did alot, but if it would have been live shit i'm sure there would have been some detractors too. You had a million opportunities to fix up your mix..he had just one. It makes a huge difference you know. (and im not taking anything away from your mix as good beats is good beeats...just yeah it all seems a little hypocritical)
Jul-15-2007 17:57
Allied Nations
Make it happen cap'n
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL
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Originally posted by all-nite-freak
greg no offense, but he does this using decks and you do it using ableton studio mode. I loved the last mix you did alot, but if it would have been live shit i'm sure there would have been some detractors too. You had a million opportunities to fix up your mix..he had just one. It makes a huge difference you know. (and im not taking anything away from your mix as good beats is good beeats...just yeah it all seems a little hypocritical)
this isn't a mix comparison thread.
I see what you're saying but I think it's pretty irrelevant- my comments have nothing to do with the actual mixing of the set, just the set as a whole and how it isn't quite working for me.
plus my suggestions are for him- if someone were to offer me the same suggestion, id definitely listen to them everyone is going to do their own thing... this is why personal feedback is so important, because we're all at different stages, doing different things.
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Jul-15-2007 18:06
all-nite-freak
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Moved from death Row to TA Paris Hillton Prison
look i don't want you to get offended greg...and all critiques are good, but i got personally offended a bit because i dont think you could do something this good with vinyl or cdj...prove me wrong Re-read your comments, you come off like some guy who has been in the business for 18 years, yet that is your age. You made some really good points dude but yeah, quit trying so hard
and dude this is just an opinion..not a personal attack..as you know i try and support you even on boards where you don't speak the language.
Jul-15-2007 18:17
Allied Nations
Make it happen cap'n
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL
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Originally posted by all-nite-freak
look i don't want you to get offended greg...and all critiques are good, but i got personally offended a bit because i dont think you could do something this good with vinyl or cdj...prove me wrong Re-read your comments, you come off like some guy who has been in the business for 18 years, yet that is your age. You made some really good points dude but yeah, quit trying so hard
and dude this is just an opinion..not a personal attach..as you know i try and support you even on boards where you don't speak the language.
i know what you mean.. and of course i dont take this as a personal attack, you and i are gonna discuss shit regardless... i dont take any of it personally and read it all carefully.
if anything my attitude is a reflection of the threadstarters... just read the opening blurb.
as for me and my shit, we can talk about that in my mix thread- no point in talking about it in here.
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Jul-15-2007 18:21
all-nite-freak
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Moved from death Row to TA Paris Hillton Prison
i think i'm just grumpy because i did Calderone without any "help" from substances, feel older than jesus and wanna pick on the youngins. Then again i really enjoyed this alot and feel like defending it because there are no bash robbiej and his horrible taste in music on mtlta opportunities today
you know i had nothing negative to say about your set as it was quite perfect.I've been killing myself practicing with my cdj's to get my mixing where i want it to be yet can't get a comment on that..only that it seemed empty
Jul-15-2007 18:28
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
@allied - it's not like i had post it notes all over my walls and crazy arrows drawn from track to track john nash style when i say i went through many changes in the TL
i meant that i kept getting new music and delaying the mix because i wanted to include new tracks. i think about my tls, but it's more of an intuition than anything
in the end it was rather spontaneous, like any act of creativity. actually though I think in general people should do more thinking about everything they do. I hate that sense of "it's not cool if you think too much" that pervades any 'hip' culture. People like to say this to others in order to make themselves feel 'hipper' and self righteous. IMO that should have been left behind in high school. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but I've experienced that my entire life from people and i just don't agree. I'm fully intent on being myself and making mixes the way I make them.
btw tried downloading your mix last week but it said the zip was corrupted. i'll try again soon
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Jul-15-2007 22:08
all-nite-freak
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Moved from death Row to TA Paris Hillton Prison
after all the typing i did today if i dont get a review (even if bad) from you i am going to make sure everyone thinks you play like dj sammy
Jul-15-2007 22:14
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
it's coming i promise
the short is, it's hot, especially the first two tracks.
i gave it another listen on friday at work but got interrupted so i didn't get to write it. i will have time today
Jul-15-2007 22:16
Clovis
techno jungle shit
Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Have yet to listen to this.
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Jul-15-2007 22:22
Allied Nations
Make it happen cap'n
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL
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Originally posted by nefardec
@allied - it's not like i had post it notes all over my walls and crazy arrows drawn from track to track john nash style when i say i went through many changes in the TL
i meant that i kept getting new music and delaying the mix because i wanted to include new tracks. i think about my tls, but it's more of an intuition than anything
in the end it was rather spontaneous, like any act of creativity. actually though I think in general people should do more thinking about everything they do. I hate that sense of "it's not cool if you think too much" that pervades any 'hip' culture. People like to say this to others in order to make themselves feel 'hipper' and self righteous. IMO that should have been left behind in high school. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but I've experienced that my entire life from people and i just don't agree. I'm fully intent on being myself and making mixes the way I make them.
btw tried downloading your mix last week but it said the zip was corrupted. i'll try again soon
for the record, i think you have some talent and the ability to do some cool shit... if i didnt i wouldnt have wasted all that time arguing with that fucking monkey :P
the mix is a lot better than most of what i hear lately and really it's just a matter of time until you really are on some crazy crazy shit... i just want to hear it develop more. seems like you're doing what feels right, right now, which is far more important than thinking anything... just keep your head in check and you might turn out all right
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Jul-15-2007 22:26
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
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ok pops lol
no seriously though i've been told that before mostly in the visual arts. it's something i do struggle with