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Originally posted by sleepydragon if they cant prove that they are illegal tracks how the hell can they take them of u? what is it guilty untill proven innocent? just smack him in the face and take them back.

Doesn't work like that in this case, as it is technically your responsibility.
It's like being stopped by the police for a driving offence, if you don't have your licence with you, you have a certain amount of time to present this at your nearest police station.
This differs slightly from the new digital DJ licence as you have to register the tracks you have with them.

Technically they have proven you guilty by using burnt CDs in the eyes of the law, it's up to you to hit them with your alibi so to speak.


Ministerio,
Nah, you don't have to take them with you, like above you will be given a certain amount of time to present them.
I do actually have a small folder with this information with me, but I do not provide them with any help to go through this, I just present it and tell them to get on with it, as I see them as the ones having the problem, not me. Only once have they ever seized some CDs and that was the time I was playing one of my own tracks. It hadn't been released at the time, and I took great pleaure in writing to them and basically declaring them to be incompetent fools, in addition I demanded a letter of apology from them but never recieved that.

I too am a firm believer in innocent till proven guilty, make no mistake, and I resent the treatment that I have had at the hands of these people. Although I have to be fair and say that some of them too have been pretty cool from time to time.
One of the clubs I had a residency at actually had difficulties with it's licence and as a reslut we had a few visits from them. And the biggest issue I have with them is the attitude that they present me with.

When my Dad had a pre club bar I also had experience with them. On this occassion they actually fabricated evidence. In the letter we got from them they claimed that their reps had heard music being played on a night that the bar was actually closed. I remember that they said that they had heard various tracks including All Saints-Pure Shores, Michael Jackson-Remember the Time and some other cack that's equally banal. What world are they living in? This was a preclub bar that used to be the pre venue for the 'Shrine' (Now Club New York) in Brighton. At the time the club was hosting, Dark Drum and Bass, Hip Hop and a Hard Dance Night which yours truly was one of the residents at. On what planet would you get those types of clubbers wanting to hear the fore mentioned acts? I also have a very good memory of what was being played at the bar because 1, I was responsible for managing the DJs, 2 I played there myself.

If someone from the PPL happens to be browsing, let it be known that I think your organisation is scum of the earth and has no interest in the representation of independant artists and only looks out for the insterests of the major labels and ultimately your own.

A lot of stuff we play is either white label or never sees official release, hence the artists never see the benefits of this organisation.

Sorry guys, rant over. Weird to see old Nem loose it like that but this is something that I feel strongly about.

Don't get me wrong, I hate music piracy, but I don't think this organisation does anything to tackle this and focuses it's efforts on the wrong group entirely.

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaarrrrr!!!!

Nem

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