Those land transfer tax increases were LUDICROUS.

For those of you who don't know what they are, please read the following:

On an average house of $400 K, you have to pay $9 K in a one time land transfer tax to the provincial government. This is a one time tax grab only.

With Miller's proposal, that would have doubled to $18 K!! That would mainly affect the houses in the core as the tax did not apply to the suburbs.

Which means, more people could afford to live in the burbs and therefore we would need more transit to get them into the city...madness.

The city government should be making it cheaper to live in high density core dwellings, not more expensive, to decrease the burden on transportation. The car tax made sense, the land transfer tax DID NOT.

Economics 101 Mr. Miller...I guess they don't teach that at Harvard any more??

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict i thought i read that TTC uses 15%

i just checked and you're correct. it was 15% in the 2006 budget. i was quoting diginut from a previous post. should prolly have verified first.

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Originally posted by zokissima +1 As large of a budget-sucker as the TTC is, it is a critical piece of the city infrastructure. Making cutbacks can't be a good thing. How about a freeze on the sallaries of TTC workers for a couple of years...

how much do u think the ttc operators make a year?

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Originally posted by Tb. how about they take some pay cuts those union ****s

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Originally posted by smuncky how much do u think the ttc operators make a year?

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Originally posted by smuncky how much do u think the ttc operators make a year?

Average about $25 an hour, I think.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Just out of curiosity, what newspaper do you read?

Globe is okay (a bit on the Liberal side). Post is okay (more than a bit on the Conservative side). Mostly I read a lot of blogs - and yes, that includes the liberal ones, even though they're mostly full of shit too.

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Originally posted by geroin can someone tell me what the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan spending millions of dollars...

Military force is the natural responsibility of government. Transportation is not. Transportation can be handled very well by the private sector, but for reasons which I think should be obvious to everyone, we don't want to be contracting out our military to the lowest bidder.

Also see EvilTree's post re: delegation of responsibilities. It's hard to believe that any Canadian doesn't understand this - I learned it in elementary school.

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Originally posted by zokissima How about a freeze on the sallaries of TTC workers for a couple of years...

TTC workers are unionized. Good luck with that. Anyway, I don't think TTC workers get paid ridiculously above market; it's the bureaucracy and corruption that eats up all the money. I sympathize with the grunts at the TTC, most of them are probably shitting their pants right now. Hopefully not while at the wheel.

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Originally posted by exstasie Is this better for you?

Yes, actually. It's much less defensive of Miller and the TTC.

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Originally posted by exstasie German cars ftw!

Let me guess... a Volkswagen Golf or Jetta, coasting at 60 km/h in the left lane?

If it's an Audi, you're forgiven.

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Originally posted by geroin isn't that the same pile of money anyways?

No. FFS. Do you pay municipal taxes to the CRA? I didn't think so. And given the current rate of provincial transfers, the amount of federal taxes you pay that flows back in Toronto is in the red. Most of your federal tax burden that does end up going to cities/provinces ends up in Quebec and the east coast.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn +1.... yes that's right digi I agree with you.

After six simultaneous heart attacks I can only say: wow.

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Originally posted by geroin i understand, but why are we there?

Because civilized nations support their allies. Is it really that difficult for you to understand?

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On a final note - does it strike anybody as odd that Miller wants to slash budgets at the TTC, police, and emergency service, but hasn't even considered the idea of scrapping the make-work city projects that nobody wanted in the first place, like screwing up the St. Clair streets and destroying the Gardiner Expressway (for waterfront "attractions" yet unknown)?

Really, don't be so quick to point fingers at our city services for wasting money. They waste plenty, definitely, but a lot of this disappearing money is due to useless and expensive pet projects for Miller himself.

Miller wants all the city services to sling mud at each other. It shifts the spotlight away from all the damage he did personally.

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Originally posted by MikeyN fuckin right, i may venture into lower bay soon

shuddup

if you go, im coming with you!

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Where tax dollars go

Police and fire services, public transit, social programs and debt charges will account for 71 per cent of property-tax revenue in 2007.
2007 PROPERTY TAX BREAKDOWN Total = $2,174.60*

Police Service & Board $531.52
Debt Charges $265.99
Fire Services $226.93
Social Services $182.87
Shelter, Support & Housing Administration $173.06
TTC (including Wheel Trans) $160.24
Parks, Forestry & Recreation $153.00
Transportation Services $124.30
Solid Waste Management Services $123.93
Toronto Public Library $101.09
Children's Services $42.73
Emergency Medical Services $41.59
Toronto Public Health $34.03
Community Partnership & Investment Program $28.16
Homes for the Aged $22.05
Economic Development, Culture & Tourism $16.61
City Council $13.27
City Planning $9.06
Municipal Licensing & Standards $7.44
Building Services -$8.08
Other -$75.15

*Based on property tax of $2,174.60 for an average house with an assessed value of $369,300.

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Originally posted by djtransid Yes I am, have fun paying 3$ to ride the crowded stinky TTC with the stained seats.

the Yonge-University line isn't bad.. it's the Bloor-Danforth that's ultra ghetto .. see A-Train, NYC

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