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Mako
Old School.

Registered: Jul 2001
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Aug-07-2007 23:12
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!

Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
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| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
just breathing the air we breath everyday is worse for you |
Come on now. Outdoor atmospheric RSP levels in Toronto are measured at around 60 µg/cu-mm on average in the winter, and slightly less in the summer. A typical nightclub or bar (with smoking) clocks in around 500 µg/cu-mm. One hour in a club is roughly equivalent to 8 hours of pollution outside.
So you say the tiny amount of time spent in clubs makes it insignificant. Well, do the math: if you spend 12 hours a week in smokey clubs or bars (say 4h on a Friday and 8h on a Saturday, which I'd say is par for the course for a lot of clubbers), then nearly 40% of the particulates you breathe in are from those 12 hours. You've almost doubled your weekly intake.
Of course, there's more to it than that. Human respiratory systems are good at filtering out small amounts of the stuff, but once it goes above a certain level, that becomes much more difficult and the effects start to become cumulative.
So while I was kind of a fence-sitter when it came to the bylaws (it's pretty bad, but very few things in life are totally safe and nobody's forcing you to go), don't say that it's a trifle, because it isn't. If you're exposed to that much SHS every day then you're way beyond doing a little damage, you're practically a smoker yourself.
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Aug-08-2007 01:01
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7-4-7
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Scarborough, Ontario
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| quote: | Originally posted by kaniz
People who are drinking/doing drugs around you dont affect you the same way that smoking does. You dont get '2nd hand e-retardation' (Unless they decide to attack you with a back rub or a light show)
If you decide to drink/do drugs or not wear earplugs - thats YOUR choice of what your doing to your body. If someone else starts smoking in the club, you don't have a choice in the matter - and their 2nd hand smoke affects you. Either by bothering your lungs, or making your clothes/hair smell nasty.
All in all, I'm happy that clubs are pretty much smoke free now, you do get some people sneaking in a smoke here and there, but more often than not (at least from my recent expierence), people either respect the no-smoking, or security deals with it pretty quickly. |
Not advocating that smoking is good or right. You are kidding yourself if you think that smoking is the only one of the vices that has social, not just personal effects. No one smokes 25 cigarettes and gets hammered on nictoine and starts fights that kill the vibe (if not people) at a club, you can drive home after a night of smoking, friends who do drugs on nights where you dont are for better or for worse A LIABILITY, we are good friends so we keep an eye out for them. I tend not to keep on eye on my buddy cause he might have dropped another smoke when he was in the washroom. Sorry you dont like the smell or the inhalation, it is part of the scene.
Not if, WHEN someone does lines in the washroom/bar/hand/wrist/tit/card/wallet or drops E fuck virtually anywhere give it sometime, some of them become someone elses problem. All of these minor annoiances are unavoidable. Drugs and smoking dont bother me so much, I stopped going to hip hop clubs because of excessive drunken nonsense bullshit. If I stayed I would have been teh whiner that people who complain about smoking are. It is illegal to excessively drunk and has been long before it was illegal to smoke indoors.
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Aug-08-2007 08:25
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