I always wanted to ask this. How popular or strong are the neo-nazi groups in Europe ? What are their activities and do they create a menace ?

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Originally posted by tubularbills I highly recommend that everyone at some point in their life go to a concentration camp. obviously, not very easy to do w/ budget and travel, i understand. but actually going to one, it brings such a sense of what *really* it felt like to be behind those fences/walls. its such a creepy, eerie, depressing feeling....but is an experience like no other.

agreed. Its quite an experience.

I went to Dachau near Munich

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Originally posted by tubularbills tourist is a horrible word to use...but they've made it "nice" to look at....more of a memorial type thing...whereas the ones in Poland were just left as they were.

the reason Dachau looks "nice" is because after the war they changed it into a refugee camp for about 15 years (Thats pretty disgusting imo). It was also the model camp, the first one and the Nazi's took media through there just ebfore the war showing it off and how 'well' they treated these criminals (they put real criminals in with their political prisoners and other undesirables to create this impression of legitimacy) .

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Originally posted by smakmagik Could somebody please suggest some movies and more importantly any books on the Holocaust. I specifically want some material on concentration camps, not the general story behind Hitler, which is what a lot of movies/books concentrate on. Any help would be helpful. Books/movies on concentration camps during the Holocaust.

hey there...

if you want to know more about the holocaust, try to visit at : Yad-Vashem (if its in hebrew, chage it to english )

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my favorite account of the holocaust was written by Gerda Weissmann-Klein, her book is called "All But My Life" , if you go to your local libary they usually have a section of books from WWII and you could find it there. I tried to find some of the camps on google earth but i didn't have any luck..

I did read a book (don't remember title) in school once about an italian guy who was sent to the camps (don't remember which, but it was in Poland I think) because he did something (don't remember what). It was a good read (I do remember that).

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Originally posted by trunks1022 maus 1 and 2.

Yes those books are great!

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Originally posted by stren I have been to Aushwitz-Birknenau and i can say, nothing beats being there and seeing for yourself. http://www.auschwitz.org.pl/html/eng/start/index.php

I have been there and Dachau as well. What I found was interesting in Aushwitz was how they also concentrated on the other groups that died, not just the jewish population. Maybe b/c I come from Polish descent.

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the hersch one i've read 3-4 times...excellent. hope these help.



Borowski, Tadeusz. This Way to the Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen, and Other Stories. (Translated from the Polish). New York: Viking Press, 1967. Collection of short stories showing the horrors of Auschwitz.

Delbo, Charlotte. None of Us Will Return. Boston: Beacon Press, 1968. One woman's struggle for survival in a death camp.

Des Pres, Terence. The Survivor, an Anatomy of Life in the Death Camps. New York: Oxford University Press, 1976.

Hersch, Giselle and Mann, Peggy. "Giselle, Save the Children!" Pasadena, CA: Everest House, 1980. Autobiography of Holocaust survival through Auschwitz.

Leitner, Isabella. Fragments of Isabella. New York: Dell, 1978. A memoir of the author's experiences at Auschwitz sensitively told.

Levi, Primo. Survival in Auschwitz. New York: Collier, 1958. Italian chemist recounts his personal experience in Auschwitz.

Mermelstein, Mel. By Bread Alone. Los Angeles: Crescent Publications, 1979. Survivor's account of his experience in a series of concentration camps.

Muller, Filip. Eyewitness Auschwitz. New York: Stein & Day, 1979. Member of the Sonderkommando at Auschwitz tells his story of survival after working three years at the gas chambers.

Oberski, Jona. Childhood. Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1983. Young Dutch child survives Westerbrook and Bergen-Belsen concentration camps.

Siegel, Aranka. Upon the Head of the Goat: A Childhood in Hungary 1939-1944. New York: Farrar Straus Giroux, 1981. Hungarian teenage girl survives ghetto life, Auschwitz, and Bergen-Belsen.

Wiesel, Elie. Night. New York: Hill and Wang. Avon Books, 1972. Personal account of Wiesel's years in concentration camps and the loss of his family.

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Originally posted by iclone the hersch one i've read 3-4 times...excellent. hope these help. Borowski, Tadeusz. This Way to the Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen, and Other Stories. (Translated from the Polish). New York: Viking Press, 1967. Collection of short stories showing the horrors of Auschwitz.

I remember reading this in school.

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"Shoah", directed by Claude Lanzmann.