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Originally posted by emc^2 ooooooo, don't even get me started on FP - what a conglameration of lame bumpkins... not even mentioning that most of it dedicated to Hip Hop. Tho ocasionaly you get some really great gems like n00b axin why he can't get his $1300 Roland AX-7 to make any sound, even tho he hooked up with his $80 Monster MIDI cables to his sound blaster joystick port... and how come his Emagic AMT|8 SOUND MODULE is not making any sound, even when he hooked0r3d up his new AX-7 to it. (no joke).

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Originally posted by kadomony if you're talented and innovative at what you do, you can make a great living doing anything :P

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Originally posted by michaelconway Well I should have read this post before.. I quit my day job! But I am spending important time working with audio as thats where I want my career to go. I think its BS to spend all your time and energy at a job only to be drained and lacking time to do things that make life enjoyable. I quit my job and don't really have money but you know what I am happy! I spend all day working on music and at night relax. When school starts im going to take full time audio classes. I quit my job because I have a plan for a career in the audio field, whatever that may be.. post-production work for movies, Live sound,\ ect.

Thats strange. I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm working full time in the civil service (because I need money to get by). It was never an option for me to quit my day job - I'm finished the moment I do that.

I saved up for an engineering course and got about 6 grand saved in 2 years. Then I had a change of heart when I talked to some people who did the course and passed - they weren't that good. There are people on this forum that know more than they do and they learned it in their spare time. So I was really disappointed.

I figured that I got this far on my own initiative and the advice of other people gracious enough to explain to me how this stuff works - I can go the rest of the way on my own initiative. We do alot of IP work at our firm so one of my bosses has offered to hook me up with the right contacts. In the new year I'm going to send letters to a number of studios in the Dublin area with a demotrack basically saying this:

'Heres what I can do. I want to work for free afternoons and weekends. I don't care what kind of work it is - even if its just making tea and shit. I just want to see what you are doing and learn.'

See where it goes from there. I figure they have nothing to lose and everything to gain and I sure as shit have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I have to be learning new things every day and applying it everyday. Someday I'll be doing this fulltime but I'm not ready yet and I cannot ever give up my dayjob without another one lined up (music related or not).

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Originally posted by palm does this mean u got 6 grand to spare on hardware now?

Yes but I'm not going to spend 6 grand on hardware because I'll spend it on stuff I don't need. I want a Jomox Sunsyn. I don't need one though. To be honest its better that I don't have one at this stage because I'm still learning how to use Virus B and ImpOSCar. 2 years and I still haven't pushed them as far as they can go. Not by half.

If I buy anything with the money it will be like I've always done it - one peice at a time and take the time to learn how it works.

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Originally posted by Derivative If I buy anything with the money it will be like I've always done it - one peice at a time and take the time to learn how it works. :grin:

Extremely sound thinking in my opinion.

I bought a z3ta+ about 4 years ago, and whilst it may not be the top VST of the day, if you have one there is definately no excuse for not being able to make some unique leads or earthshattering bass sounds. It does fall slightly flat on the effects side but you can't have everything and for that price who's complaining.
The thing is that I am still learning things about it and definately feel that to ignore that kind of knowledge is foolish. Also to a certain degree a lot of knowledge is transferable to other synths whether they be hardware or software.

If I did have 6 grand though I would probably invest it in my studio in other areas such as accoustics, quality monitors if I didn't have them and perhaps even an external compressor something to give a bit of warmth ( I have an Avalon but it's too clinical), acheivable with a range of plugs today but you can't beat passing the signal through some valves.

I notice you have a Virus B, I have been in the balance for some time now, not sure to get a Nord or a Virus B or C. The Virus TI is definately out though... too much hassle.
I have tested both and each has their own plus points without question. Although I did find that the Nord interface agreed more with how I like to work and I had a better work flow.

Probably going to start a sh!t storm but I have to say it, there is just something about the sound that comes from hardware that can't be replicated by VSTs. Perhaps it's imprefection rather than perfection. Also might sound crazy given that most hardware these days is actually virtual analogue as opposed to real analogue.

Oh well, my two cents on... well I'm not really sure

cheers
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Hahah. I never got into Zeta because I toyed around with the demo for a couple of weeks and decided that I didn't want to land myself with that sort of learning curve on top of having to learn FL Studio 4 and learn how to program a Virus B.

The Virus is a software synthesizer. It just runs on a dsp (digital signal processor) as opposed to a computer cpu and it has a really really good user interface.

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I notice you have a Virus B, I have been in the balance for some time now, not sure to get a Nord or a Virus B or C. The Virus TI is definately out though... too much hassle. I have tested both and each has their own plus points without question. Although I did find that the Nord interface agreed more with how I like to work and I had a better work flow.

The best thing about the Virus is workflow and its user interface. At first its a wee bit arcane and I used to wonder why they decided to put 2/3rds of all the features of the synth behind sub menus accessible via a 3 by 1 inch display and how they were all split up and accessible via different buttons. Then about a year later I started to 'get it'.

The only way I can describe it to someone who hasn't spent the time programming it is to say this:

Have you ever driven a car where you got the feeling the people who made it never drove their own car? Because there are loads of things about driving it day to day which are annoying as hell?

The people that built the Virus B used their own synth. Do you get what I mean?

Last edited by Derivative on Dec-30-2007 at 23:12