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Originally posted by Clovis Solution: Stop seeing DJ's who suck at Ableton, like Gabriel & Dresden.

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell myth: Ableton mixes for you reality: Ableton beatmatches for you, you still have to do all of your own fading and eqing etc...everything and anything a dj using decks would do, but you CAN do more because in theory you have an infinite number of decks and god knows how much more cooler effects and techniques. its up to the user to elaborate and use ableton to his advantage. myth: you cant cheat with CDJs reality: yes you can! the beat detection in the pioneer cdj1000s is so good that all you have to do is move the pitch slider up just enough to change it to the next bpm and do the same with the other deck and boom instantly synced tempo (and the more precise the decimal the better i.e. +8,+10,+16). as long as you are playing direct from the master mp3s (beatport etc) it will sync up perfectly 98% of the time. vinyl rips dont work though. in summation, ableton and cdjs are at the same level of "cheatability" if you ask me.

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It's the ignorance of people who don't realize what has been said above that pisses me off to no extent. Thanks Blake so much for speaking your mind.

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Originally posted by Clovis Solution: Stop seeing DJ's who suck at Ableton, like Gabriel & Dresden.

Aren't we talking about live performances here and not DJ's?

I can think of only one live performer who is entirely Ableton based who is not atrocious.

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Originally posted by Clovis Solution: Stop seeing DJ's who suck, like Gabriel & Dresden.

Fixed

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If I ever find the time to learn and use Ableton for mixing it will be for mixes that I post on here, I couldn't use it live I don't think. I'm happy using CDJ's.

Not to mention I don't trust computers one bit, in my history they've fucked up so much. Having my whole set sitting on a hard drive doesn't make me feel very comfortable if something with the PC malfunctioned.

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Originally posted by DJ Patski If I ever find the time to learn and use Ableton for mixing it will be for mixes that I post on here, I couldn't use it live I don't think. I'm happy using CDJ's. Not to mention I don't trust computers one bit, in my history they've fucked up so much. Having my whole set sitting on a hard drive doesn't make me feel very comfortable if something with the PC malfunctioned.

Don't scratched CD-R's and broken CDJs scare you?

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis Don't scratched CD-R's and broken CDJs scare you?

The difference is: When one CD-R is fucked up, you only have 1 track, you can't play, but if your harddrive dies down, you don't have any music left

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Try using one CDJ.

Now try using a Mac.

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Originally posted by iammesol Try using one CDJ. Now try using a Mac.

Well, if you really want to use Ableton for not only pushing buttons, you'll probably use some more stuff like MIDI controllers than only the laptop

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Originally posted by Nik Novo Well, if you really want to use Ableton for not only pushing buttons, you'll probably use some more stuff like MIDI controllers than only the laptop

What's your point? If they worked once, they're going to work again. Better yet, it's most likely going to be YOUR equipment. YOU know it works, and YOU customized it. I see win all over this setup.

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Originally posted by iammesol What's your point? If they worked once, they're going to work again. Better yet, it's most likely going to be YOUR equipment. YOU know it works, and YOU customized it. I see win all over this setup.

A harddrive is more likely to die down than a CDJ

I don't really care too much what someone uses, I personally think that using Ableton only to do the transitions is really boring and I would never want to do it myself in a club. It's different when you really play around with it and add extra melodies and elements, like Paul van Dyk already does

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Originally posted by Clovis Don't scratched CD-R's and broken CDJs scare you?

Not as much as being totally dependent on a HDD.

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Originally posted by Nik Novo The difference is: When one CD-R is fucked up, you only have 1 track, you can't play, but if your harddrive dies down, you don't have any music left

external hd, and if that fucks up, then it just isnt your night as a dj.