The "resisting" of the student is hardly relevant to the points some of us are trying to make. The student was going to get escorted out of the building either way - all for ASKING A QUESTION that police didnt like. Instead of anwering the question - and not just that - but he wasnt even allowed to finish his question - police moved in to aprehend the student, and it was more than just 1 or 2 police officers. They way the police handled this was also appalling.

Watch again how the police moved in quickly before he even started reading his paper



Obviously he was going to get escorted anyways. Kinda odd how people who ask the "wrong" questions must be escorted out of the building, democracy at its best ;-)

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Originally posted by Magnetonium The "resisting" of the student is hardly relevant to the points some of us are trying to make. The student was going to get escorted out of the building either way - all for ASKING A QUESTION that police didnt like. Instead of anwering the question - and not just that - but he wasnt even allowed to finish his question - police moved in to aprehend the student, and it was more than just 1 or 2 police officers. They way the police handled this was also appalling. Watch again how the police moved in quickly before he even started reading his paper Obviously he was going to get escorted anyways. Kinda odd how people who ask the "wrong" questions must be escorted out of the building, democracy at its best ;-)

seriously, you must be the biggest one-eyed fool on here nothing you have posted here is even remotely relevant. the police didnt escort him because they didnt like his question. honestly, what is wrong with you??

the police waited for him to finish his stupid secret society question. he wasn't being escorted because of it. he was escorted because he, unlike the rest of the people there, felt he was special and deserved special privileges the rest of the room did not (you know, such as waiting your turn or fitting in with the discussion's time frame). which is why he grabbed the microphone away from someone else who was in the middle of asking a question. where is your self-righteous anger at him for infringing on the free speech rights of that person??

i am honestly amazed you could get that ^^ analysis from the video you posted. talk about seeing what you want to see.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium The student was going to get escorted out of the building either way - all for ASKING A QUESTION that police didnt like.

wrong. try again.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN seriously, you must be the biggest one-eyed fool on here nothing you have posted here is even remotely relevant. the police didnt escort him because they didnt like his question. honestly, what is wrong with you?? the police waited for him to finish his stupid secret society question. he wasn't being escorted because of it. he was escorted because he, unlike the rest of the people there, felt he was special and deserved special privileges the rest of the room did not (you know, such as waiting your turn or fitting in with the discussion's time frame). which is why he grabbed the microphone away from someone else who was in the middle of asking a question. where is your self-righteous anger at him for infringing on the free speech rights of that person?? i am honestly amazed you could get that ^^ analysis from the video you posted. talk about seeing what you want to see.

i know what you are trying to say.... the guy just walked in the room and asked questions when it wasn't even his turn, true he shouldn't have done that... but he did ask some questions, and there was no need for it to turn the way it did, that is inexcusable! i think your problem is that you blindly turn your head from the situation and "simply" go by the book and whats regarded as being a "good american" to you.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN the police waited for him to finish his stupid secret society question.

why would that be a stupid question? haven't you seen the video of what they get involved in to in those "secret societies"?? quite disgusting and disturbing if you ask me, but hey what ever floats your boat right....

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 i know what you are trying to say.... the guy just walked in the room and asked questions when it wasn't even his turn, true he shouldn't have done that... but he did ask some questions, and there was no need for it to turn the way it did, that is inexcusable! i think your problem is that you blindly turn your head from the situation and "simply" go by the book and whats regarded as being a "good american" to you.

Methinks you need to know pkcRAISTLIN just a wee bit better before you consider him a "blind, good American." What part of anything in what he has previously said has led you to believe he has been a "blind" and "good American" in any way? Please recite any specific quotes by him to help you to such a conclusion.

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 why would that be a stupid question? haven't you seen the video of what they get involved in to in those "secret societies"?? quite disgusting and disturbing if you ask me, but hey what ever floats your boat right....

Hmmm, so now it's not Kerry who was in on it - rather, someone in the police department sent a secret society messenger who happens to be on the police force who wast on duty that night.....

.....unless, of course, that secret society member wasn't actually on duty but the secret society pulled a few devious strings and substituted a non-secret society member on the police force with their secret society member to help protect Kerry from any embarrassing questions about their shared secret society to help protect a fellow secret society member on stage, because that particular policeman may not have been truly scheduled for duty that night but knowing that secret society and that incredibly double-secret handshake, he got in to help protect his fellow member who's now a Senator and former Presidential candidate?

I wonder, did you see those policemen give their super duper secret "wink" at Kerry to show they are protecting their fellow brother in need?

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From everything I've read, this kid got exactly what he wanted. He probably got better than he expected, even. Tasering was excessive, but I've got no pity for him - he set out to make a scene, and now he's a mini-celebrity. He didn't prove anything about Kerry/cops/censorship, except "be a disruptive, cop-resisting douchebag and suffer the consequences".

would you be outraged if this guy interrupted an event you were hyped about being at??

This is exactly like the last tazering thread we had.
The guy acted like a dick, didn't listen to the police and he got tazed for it.
Pretty simple math; listen to the god damn police next time.

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Besides getting tased ain't shit. Been tased 3 times.... its not that bad.......

My cousins and I use to use cattle prods back in the day.....

now pepper spray is the worse.....

Holy shit, take a look at this: http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9793807.html#

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 One thing I failed to clarify in my anti-conspiracy rant - although the guy was being a deliberate turd and being purposely disruptive and disrespectful, I'm not an advocate for tasing. Overall I think they are a bit overused for activities that could be settled with a wee bit more backbone. Merely resisting arrest to me is not necessarily grounds for tasing, but unfortunately there's a bit of a gray area on this issue that's continually being contended and questioned - likely for good reason I might add. It's a worthy debate on that issue alone. However my issue was against anyone somehow linking this douchebag's free speech rights supposedly being taken away because he's speaking some slithering conspiratorial truth about Kerry's college background in an elusive society. That simply holds no water given the little turd's actions (i.e. "known prankster" with his own website of practical jokes). So perhaps before this thread gets closed down by Neo or Lira, perhaps we can all settle down just a wee bit and cut down the flaming and name calling just a tad?

Point take my [more or less] level headed friend. It just pisses me off to no end when people gloat over or justify excessive use of force, unjustifiable coercion, police brutality, or abuse of power. Instead of having a minimal level of empathy for the victim it turns in to a sickening display of sadistic rationalization of how it was well "deserved." That's when I feel like smacking the shit out certain people.

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