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Originally posted by Paulie How people can factor the war in iraq as an issue regarding the upcoming election amazes me. Regardless of which government was in term (Labor or Liberal) the fact of the matter is they would of both sent troops in.

Agreed. I don't see how this can have a massive impact on this election at all.

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Originally posted by Paulie As far as im concerned for myself 2 major issues in this federal election. Tax Cuts and Interest Rates. As far as our health system and education system goes and such issues they definately should be left for state politics and we should be bitching to the state governments. They have been cleaning up since the GST and still cry poor to the federal government.

I would remove Tax Cuts completely. They serve no real benefit to the majority of people and only serve to put pressure on interest rates due to increased spending.

If I was in power, there would not be tax cuts. I would rather see that money go straight back into health, education, broadband and roads then to see a couple of hundred dollars extra in my pocket.

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The lower house consists of Cabinet, who acting as the executive government have many connections with the public service. For example, the Minister for health is the boss of the department for health, though has only limited experience in the field. The public service head of that department will have all the experience and may influence legislation in terms of what he or she desires. The BBC production, “Yes Minister”, was based on this manipulation of the government by the public service. This therefore, raises the question, are the lower house MP’s, or directly, the executive government, really representative of the people? In a capitalist society, would a labourers vote count equally to that of Jamie Packers? The BS in practise is seen as promoting the wishes of an electorate/people, however it enters into a system filled with capitalists, political affiliates and lobby groups. This undermines the notion of electoral representation. Deals are done behind closed doors where there is no active public involvement.

With this said, John Howard has undermined the nation, in relation to most of his policies; IndustrialRelations, WarInIrag, InterestRates, and GST with his political affiliates that we don't see. Nuff said.

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LOL @ you questioning the voting system and democracy.


How has johnny undermined the nation in regards to GST and Industrial relations? I dont see the state governments complaining about the GST they take, remember all gst goes to the states. Also i think Johnny has been pretty up front in regards to industrial relations regardless of our opinions on it.

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Originally posted by Paulie Also i think Johnny has been pretty up front in regards to industrial relations regardless of our opinions on it.

yeah, upfront by telling us repeatedly that the IR laws would increase bargaining power for workers, raise wages, create employment- all untrue.

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Originally posted by dan_essential The lower house consists of Cabinet, who acting as the executive government have many connections with the public service. For example, the Minister for health is the boss of the department for health, though has only limited experience in the field. The public service head of that department will have all the experience and may influence legislation in terms of what he or she desires. The BBC production, “Yes Minister”, was based on this manipulation of the government by the public service. This therefore, raises the question, are the lower house MP’s, or directly, the executive government, really representative of the people? In a capitalist society, would a labourers vote count equally to that of Jamie Packers? The BS in practise is seen as promoting the wishes of an electorate/people, however it enters into a system filled with capitalists, political affiliates and lobby groups. This undermines the notion of electoral representation. Deals are done behind closed doors where there is no active public involvement. With this said, John Howard has undermined the nation, in relation to most of his policies; IndustrialRelations, WarInIrag, InterestRates, and GST with his political affiliates that we don't see. Nuff said.

that's just how it works unfortunately. its the most manageable form of democracy an advanced liberal democracy can engender in the 21st century.

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK fuck democracy. Stalin FTW!

hahaha
give us your five year plan!

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So who is everyone voting this year? Let's make a list! Seriously this secret ballot stuff is crap now, everyone is telling each other who they support!

Myself: Labor

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Labor.

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Liberal

I'm happy with where we are. Yes there are issues to fix up but the option is there to fix them.

Can't see much hope for Labor if they get elected. All I envision then is a shitty economy and without a strong economy, all other plans have no meaning. You can't fix health, education, transport and environmental issues without money. Money drives the world.

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