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ams.rld
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You put real money in this one? I can appraise the stock for, tell you what I think its worth according to their historical performance.
Yeah I put real money in this one. Could you really do that for me? If yes than yes

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Krypton
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Yeah I put real money in this one. Could you really do that for me? If yes than yes


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I really could care less


Couldnt damn it! Couldnt!

By the way, the irony of my being annoyed at this has already been made apparent.


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Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by ams.rld
Just curious. But does any body actually work for blackwater or have a relative? I'm near certain groups like this would be best in situations like Darfur, or somalia or Sierra Leone. But the public hiring of groups is done only to waste money. I was under the impression Delta was meant to protect diplomats and public officials during the time of chaos in a country. But than again the government rather not use the resources where they are best applied.




E.O. (aka Aegis) actually did go into Sierra Leone and ended the conflict there. Since the conflict never played out, there are some serious embedded problems lingering in that country, but the overt violence has ended largely due to external security. And Liberia has flirted with creating an independent (private) police force to provide security as well. Erik Prince, the head of Blackwater, has been begging to go into Darfur, arguing that countries don't have the right political capital and global governance institutions can't procure the right mandates (i.e. use of force). To be honest, I think that peacekeeping has the potential to be a valuable (and lucrative) endeavor for the private sector.


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Trancer-X
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E.O. (aka Aegis) actually did go into Sierra Leone and ended the conflict there. Since the conflict never played out, there are some serious embedded problems lingering in that country, but the overt violence has ended largely due to external security. And Liberia has flirted with creating an independent (private) police force to provide security as well. Erik Prince, the head of Blackwater, has been begging to go into Darfur, arguing that countries don't have the right political capital and global governance institutions can't procure the right mandates (i.e. use of force). To be honest, I think that peacekeeping has the potential to be a valuable (and lucrative) endeavor for the private sector.


Are you in the private sector?

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Lebezniatnikov
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Are you in the private sector?



No.

EDIT: Why?


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To be honest, I think that peacekeeping has the potential to be a valuable (and lucrative) endeavor for the private sector.

It could very well be. But no way in hell should this ever ever happen. It makes me feel sick just thinking about it

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Lebezniatnikov
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It could very well be. But no way in hell should this ever ever happen. It makes me feel sick just thinking about it



It already has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execut...omes#Activities

And regarding Sandline International (a British mercenary outfit that closed in 2004), they released a statement announcing their closure on due to:

quote:
The general lack of governmental support for Private Military Companies willing to help end armed conflicts in places like Africa, in the absence of effective international intervention, is the reason for this decision. Without such support the ability of Sandline to make a positive difference in countries where there is widespread brutality and genocidal behaviour is materially diminished.


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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
It already has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execut...omes#Activities

And regarding Sandline International (a British mercenary outfit that closed in 2004), they released a statement announcing their closure on due to:

They should all be made illegal. Or perhaps they could find some money to be made in Burma right now??

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Lebezniatnikov
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They should all be made illegal. Or perhaps they could find some money to be made in Burma right now??




Actually, they usually contract with governments against resistance movements, but one of the things I fear most about them is the possibility of them being contracted by one government against another. Just wait until the government of the DRC hires out Aegis to topple Rwanda or something. Or worse, an organization like the LRA contracts Blackwater to fight the Ugandan government... any organization with money becomes a potential buyer of a well-equipped, well-trained private militia.


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Actually, they usually contract with governments against resistance movements

Along with your concerns, the above is exactly WHY they should be made illegal...

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Lebezniatnikov
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Along with your concerns, the above is exactly WHY they should be made illegal...



Well, to be fair, Charles Taylor and the RUF weren't exactly popular revolts. I'm really on the fence on this issue. On the one hand, I think they could be extremely useful going into places where getting a mandate has been difficult - like Darfur or northern Uganda. On the other hand, the opportunity to abuse them is just so high.


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