As a former "underground pharmacist" i hope this clears somethings up.One of the primary problems with MDMA is the low quality of the material sold on the street to recreational users. Tablets of street "ecstasy" frequently contain an assortment of psychoactive substances, either mixed with MDMA, or in place of it, or may contain no active ingredients at all. Other substances found in street ecstasy include MDA, MDE, caffeine, ephedrine, amphetamines, DXM, and occasionally DOB.

Caffeine, ephedrine, and amphetamines will produce less empathic effects than MDMA with more stimulation and feelings of restlessness. MDA and MDE are both somewhat similar in effects to MDMA and it may be difficult for even experienced users to distinguish between them. MDE is slightly shorter in duration than MDMA and generally has a lower peak and less euphoria than MDMA. MDA lasts longer and generally produces more visuals and psychedelic effects than MDMA. The effects of DXM, which has recently become more common in street ecstasy, can be extremely unpleasant if you're not expecting them: strong disorientation, dizziness, nausea, grogginess or strong sedation, and at high enough doses, dissociation from the body.

Thanks for your post Juzfugen Yeah the DXM is not fun, I don't get all these fools downing Robotussin to feel like that! Oh well, some people will try anything, especially when its legal ....

Cheers,

Thor......

wow..juzfugen...facts are always good. ya really know your shit. hehe. i myself haven't downed a bottle of robutussin for a rush..doesn't that stuff make you WANT to sleep? ..hehe..kinda weird if you ask me.

Taking 2 at a time is pointless and too harmful for ur mind to take over 1 night...

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Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness right on! thats something to many people havent figured out! also E is not worth the amount of money we pay for it here in the US though. if its not $10 or less or the best pill youve ever taken then i dont think its even worth paying for.

where in cali are from darkness???

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Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness ...and if you hallucinate its very much likely that there is just mescaline in the e which is rare because mescaline is hard to come by but some people like putting it in the e(and i like those people)...

Hmm, Ive tried Green Nikes(mescaline/mdma) and they are not hallucinogenic. The main effect is actually that of making your eyes twich rapidly, I have had this when smoking lots, you might see trails, but I was nowhere near hallucinating. peas.

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Originally posted by Lynx E's cool with me. sometimes you just need to roll a few back when you're going to be ravin' for a lonnng time. keeps you going. =) but otherwise don't really need it. just don't OD. hehe.

aahh yeah thats what i think...it gets to me that i cant keep goin all night long....

heheh....dancing guys...dancing....lol

it really helps that way...
but i also agree with infinity, because ultra was absolutly the most awesome experience i have ever had...and i purposly remained sober. so really i believe there is a time and a place to roll. and use it sparenly because you might end up like me and fry your brains.....lol

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To be honest with yez i never feel the need for more than one or two pillz a night.. all i take it for is to keep me going, but the effects of it are a bonus. I dont profess any deep knowledge on the subject, i just know who to get em from and what a good pill is.. thats all u need coz if u know someone to get pillz off and trust them then u know they wont give you shite. Also a lot of the pillz we have here in the UK contain some amount of ketamine.. >>BOSH<< lol As for that DXM shite, it is a designer hell pill, i seen pics of ppl on that shit, its enough to put u off rolling for life, and thats what its there for.

peace

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yeah for sure. two pillz is enough for me any night. but 90% of the time, if the rave is awesome enough, remaing sober provides the same rush and energy as the pillz. gotta love trance that way.

w u r d !

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