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Originally posted by plaxx it will come

Yes indeed it is, but it's not by TomTom. TomTom has the powerful GPS apps & maps.

Plus they might charge you per month, like Telenav.

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Originally posted by plaxx Fine, the E70 may have most of the 'inventions' in the iPhone, but saying that good design (especially of a product that you will use everyday) is irrelevant is completely absurd. The fact of the matter is, Nokia have done it first, but Apple did it better. Start with the actualy physical appearance the phones, and we can both agree that E70 looks terrible, and the iPhone doesn't, right down to the actual GUI.

It's not irrelevant to the consumer, but it is irrelevant when we're talking about best INVENTIONS. There are awards given out to products for best design; I'd have absolutely no qualms about the iPhone winning that a best design competition.

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Originally posted by plaxx "Improving on whats out there". So you agree then, that Apple has done it better? Design wise, marketing wise, and actually making people want it?

Design-wise, yes.

Marketing is mostly done by the hype Apple products receive in general. I'm in the opinion that Apple could start selling white bread, and people would still talk about it till your ears bleed.

Usability-wise, though, I'm not so sure. I like traditional phones a little bit more. For one, i can hit buttons without looking at the screen, and I don't have to wipe the screen of fingerprints everytime I use the phone.

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Originally posted by plaxx Honestly, tell me that you would use that piece of shit (E70) over an iPhone. If they're both sub-par with the technology, which one would you choose?

I'd choose the iPhone, but that's because I can resell it for more.

You're missing the point - I'm not saying the iPhone is shit. It's overpriced, but it is a very nice toy to have. That said, it doesn't deserve "invention of the year" by even a long stretch. Just because a lot of people are talking about it, doesn't mean there was a lot of inventing going on there.

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I'm with Cosmic. It's a good invention but it shouldn't have won best invention. It should have one the best design award. As all the features were available on other phones ages before the iphone.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL The screens are cracking from the air pressure during flights & etc.

I find that an unlikely story as the air pressure is less in the air than at sea level. So unless they're cracking in your pocket from the air pressure while at sea level, they're not cracking in the air.

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Originally posted by harcourt I find that an unlikely story as the air pressure is less in the air than at sea level. So unless they're cracking in your pocket from the air pressure while at sea level, they're not cracking in the air.

Yeah they were cracking inside ppl's pockets during flights.

The 1st gen Treo 600 had that prob, but it was fixed right away. Remember the Treo 600 was made years and years ago.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL I hate the fact the iPhone's apps must be first party ... meaning only Apple can make the software for it and you have to buy it.

just like any other apple product. u HAVE to use their software/hardware.

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Originally posted by smuncky just like any other apple product. u HAVE to use their software/hardware.

That's not what it says here (in terms of platforms...):


And this is just the beginning. Platforms are for building on. Last month, after a lot of throat-clearing, Apple decided to open up the iPhone, so that you—meaning people other than Apple employees—will be able to develop software for it too. Ever notice all that black blank space on the iPhone's desktop? It's about to fill up with lots of tiny, pretty, useful icons.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur That said, it doesn't deserve "invention of the year" by even a long stretch. Just because a lot of people are talking about it, doesn't mean there was a lot of inventing going on there.

The iPhone doesn't even deserve to be labeled an "invention"

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saying an iPod is an invention is like saying Edison invented electricity...

I've had my Treo 650 for about two years now. It has a touch screen (yes, a perfectly good one), an SD slot currently holding a 2 GB card (which by the way, the iPhone doesn't support), an MP3 player, an NES/SNES emulator, a camera, and a dozen other useful 3rd party apps/games. The web browser looks exactly as you'd expect a web browser to on that size screen, and if I don't like it, I can always install Opera Mobile, which is at least as good as Safari.

Oh, and it's also unlocked GSM, supports GPS applications, and is built tough enough to withstand a bit of a drop.

So what exactly did Apple add? Oh yeah, the WICKED-ASS TOUCH SCREEN! Because it's not just any touch screen, it like, ACTUALLY SENSES TOUCH! And the web looks so much better with Apple's shitcake anti-aliased text! Oh, and, and, and... WIFI! Even though nobody actually uses it, and it drains the battery instantly, it's important for some reason! And just forget about the fact that every smart phone made since 2006 has had it!

Yeah... it looks nice. That hardly qualifies it for an "Invention of the Year" award.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I've had my Treo 650 for about two years now. It has a touch screen (yes, a perfectly good one), an SD slot currently holding a 2 GB card (which by the way, the iPhone doesn't support), an MP3 player, an NES/SNES emulator, a camera, and a dozen other useful 3rd party apps/games. The web browser looks exactly as you'd expect a web browser to on that size screen, and if I don't like it, I can always install Opera Mobile, which is at least as good as Safari. Oh, and it's also unlocked GSM, supports GPS applications, and is built tough enough to withstand a bit of a drop. So what exactly did Apple add? Oh yeah, the WICKED-ASS TOUCH SCREEN! Because it's not just any touch screen, it like, ACTUALLY SENSES TOUCH! And the web looks so much better with Apple's shitcake anti-aliased text! Oh, and, and, and... WIFI! Even though nobody actually uses it, and it drains the battery instantly, it's important for some reason! And just forget about the fact that every smart phone made since 2006 has had it! Yeah... it looks nice. That hardly qualifies it for an "Invention of the Year" award.

You forgot that the screen adjusts itself depending on how you hold the phone. Craziness