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While I agree with you UmmiE, that people should be considerate of each others belief, I think you would agree that the Islamic fundamentalist exhibit anything but a civil approach that is to say, it's either their way, or for lack of a better term, kaboom? In all seriousness though, this is the case for any activist group. But I think pkcRAISTLIN, and a couple of others make some very valid points, and to shy away from them by referring to obvious religious based reasoning is not very objective and quite frankly, it's very short sighted.
I'll be frank, my father is Muslim (Iranian) and my mother is Roman Catholic (Swedish), I was born here and as it just so happens I am an agnostic. But I don't talk in ignorance; I've studied both my birth religions mine is an opinion as unbiased as it can get. Having said that, one thing I really can't stand is the repetitive, dim, and tedious argument of "Don't believe what you watch on CNN...you don't know what its like man, I'm a Muslim, I know what I'm talking about..." giving a break. (This isn't toward you UmmiE)
If you have an IQ just north of a bedroom slipper, you know that what you watch on the news is often not an accurate account of the actual happenings/implications especially when it surrounds controversial topics such as these. But stop making yourselves look like complete idiots by sticking to the same redundant, useless and obvious statements.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
ideas should have to stand up to rigorous challenges before they're accepted by anyone. there is no reason religion should get a free ride. |
Absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent.
This is where you need to pay attention UmmiE; thank god (!) we live in a society where theists, atheist and otherwise can live among each other in peace, for the most part thank god we have the freedom to state our opinion and the freedom to place doubt wherever we individually see fit. In short, thank whoever you want to thank that we live in a society that encourages compromise, instead of repression compromise and tolerance; these are the key word here.
For some, not all, unfortunate countries in the Middle East where most of the mess originates from there is no cooperation, no freedom, no tolerance. Uneducated populations make up the vast region, and that ignorance is the spark behind the explosions. (ba-du-dum-psh!)
Now I assume UmmiE, that you're in Canada because you enjoy the aforementioned freedoms so ask yourself then, if this teacher was here, in Canada or the USA, what then? Would he go to jail? Would your reaction be different? Would you send him to prison? Would you kill him? I'm sure a lot of folks want him dead but ask yourself, where are those people? Further, do you share the same set of values as them? do your values not reflect that of your society? (isnt that why you live here...?)
Granted, people should not go out of their way to abuse that freedom by intentionally insulting a system of belief but alas, that is just common courtesy and nothing more. Just like anything else considerate, it depends on the individual him/her self and the last thing you want to do is impose your religious beliefs, and ask that people act in accordance to that...focus on tolerance, and be thankful you live in a place where you have equal rights, which are protected.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and yet, religious fanatics in the west at least tolerate the blasphemous, you don't see christians running around burning down embassies because of some supposed slight on their archaic belief system. |
While I agree with you on most of your points, I think we can agree that (for the most part) Christians hold an immense amount of sway over society and that their tactics are much more...subtle.
and I'm late for class...
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