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Originally posted by Meat187 So what's the driving feel of an ipod? Does it sound better than other players? Does it attract chicks? Does it make the subway train go faster? While Ferrari has some features which indeed may appeal to car lovers, I can't see the same thing applying to an mp3 player. Still this is a good example, since there are countless idiots who bought a Ferrari just to boost their ego. The fact that the ipod is so succesful just proves that Apple has a really good marketing department.

The driving feel comes from all aspects of the player. From the steering feedback to the brake feel. Not the auditory side, although that is a plus. The iPod is very good at keeping the user in touch with what's going on without being overboard about it.

It's not their marketing department that was so successful with this. It their research and interface departments that had the major success. You can advertise a product with as much trendy stuff as you want, but what it comes down to is user response. If you don't have a product that delivers a good experience (interface and ease of use) then you won't have a high seller. Regardless of how much money you throw into marketing.

Take the infomercials for cheesy crappy products as an example of this. They are hip, energy filled, exciting, but how often do you go to someones house and see the product being used? They may be good at what they do, but no matter what they want to think there just isn't a need for it. There was a need for portable music and the research that went into the User Interface turned out to hit the nail on the head.

Ferrari User Interface > Dodge Viper user interface. The viper costs a fraction of what the Ferrari 360 does. In the racing world, the Viper is a head boss, but it lacks the quality and usability feedback that the Ferrari does. That's what makes the Ferrari such a desired car.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Does it matter? How does it affect you when others buy ipods? Does it hurt you?

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Originally posted by RJT

Is that Digweed with glasses for your Contacts icon?

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Originally posted by getfoul The driving feel comes from all aspects of the player. From the steering feedback to the brake feel. Not the auditory side, although that is a plus. The iPod is very good at keeping the user in touch with what's going on without being overboard about it. It's not their marketing department that was so successful with this. It their research and interface departments that had the major success. You can advertise a product with as much trendy stuff as you want, but what it comes down to is user response. If you don't have a product that delivers a good experience (interface and ease of use) then you won't have a high seller. Regardless of how much money you throw into marketing.

Don't you think it's funny, that when you're praising an mp3 player, you didn't mention a single thing that had to with actually playing music.
What you say would matter if the ipods main feature were to make you feel good. But it's main feature is to play music, and it sucks at that for the reasons already mentioned in this thread.

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Originally posted by RJT ...is completely untrue from an objective standpoint.

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Originally posted by RJT i own one

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Originally posted by[badass]isoterra[/badass] someone who happens to be considerably more badass than you; i think you should learn from me.

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Originally posted by callme freaks live set edit

That would be a pretty "sick dis" if I was trying to make an objective claim, but as I was clearly talking from my own experience, next time I suggest you "try harder".

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike

fyi i love that photo in your sig...i'm stealing it for now

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Don't you think it's funny, that when you're praising an mp3 player, you didn't mention a single thing that had to with actually playing music. What you say would matter if the ipods main feature were to make you feel good. But it's main feature is to play music, and it sucks at that for the reasons already mentioned in this thread.

If you failed to catch it, I was alluding to the fact that, in reality, it has nothing to do with it's ability to play music that makes it popular. It's the entire package. It's the user friendly part that makes it so widely accepted. The other players don't have the simplistic, yet well thought out and displayed package.

Because it has this backing, it doesn't need the perfect sound or the other gimmicks that other players have. It focuses on not making the user feel stupid because of all the hard to figure out features. With hard to figure out I mean that if you can't look at it and instantly know what to do, it's hard or difficult.

We all know that other players have cool features. The people who buy these generally do do their research when they spend 200-400 dollars on a piece of metal. They aren't just looking for fancy things, they are looking for something that has usability and support as well.

No, I don't think it's funny that I failed to mention music. I intentionally didn't mention music because of these key ideas. These ideas are something that you, as a music aficionado, are not very concerned with. You want music quality and that's it. You'll learn how to use something regardless of what it takes if it has something that you need as a part of it's overall package. Luckly for Apple, you make up the minority and the people drawn to what they spent millions in research on make up the majority.

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Like hearing my grandmother, talk to her dog that way -- "Ooo
-- puppy!" and I said I'd never do that, ever! And now I have two
dogs and I talk like an imbecile! I wander around, "Ooo! You want
food!" I've turned into a f*cking moron.

OMG OMG I HATE iPod Jesus Christ DESTROY THEM ALL!!!! Theres so many better ones out there! Who gives a flying fuck? I'm tired of these iPods suck threads its fucking personal preferance. They want one let the fucktards get one and you go buy the one you want.

Holy crap...that guy has an iPod what a loser!! Those thinga suck! Meanwhile iPod guy is getting vagin, and your posting threads about how much you hate iPods. Fuckin emo man, do something constructive.

Merry Christmas

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Originally posted by Chris Crossland OMG OMG I HATE iPod Jesus Christ DESTROY THEM ALL!!!! Theres so many better ones out there! Who gives a flying fuck? I'm tired of these iPods suck threads its fucking personal preferance. They want one let the fucktards get one and you go buy the one you want. Holy crap...that guy has an iPod what a loser!! Those thinga suck! Meanwhile iPod guy is getting vagin, and your posting threads about how much you hate iPods. Fuckin emo man, do something constructive. Merry Christmas

yes constructive is posting in a thread calling people losers for posting. Well played.

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Originally posted by[badass]isoterra[/badass] someone who happens to be considerably more badass than you; i think you should learn from me.

The real enemy here is cell phone bills, you sonsabithces!

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Originally posted by[badass]isoterra[/badass] someone who happens to be considerably more badass than you; i think you should learn from me.