It's unfortunate but given that even the U.S. government cannot seem to run an election without irregularities, it's not realistic to expect that an African nation can. It is mainly that this election was so close... so those problems are brought to the fore.

My friends there seem to be pretty optimistic that this will not escalate too far, and according to them the violence is pretty much restricted to a few areas. I think that both sides realize that they have much to lose from a protracted or large-scale conflict, and given that the new composition of the parliament will provide the opposition with considerable power anyway, it looks like a situation in which compromises may be reached. From what I hear about the opposition leader, I am a bit skeptical of him (he did name his son Fidel Castro Odinga, after all...) but we shall see.

I'm going there in March, so it will be interesting to see things first hand. Though by then there may not be much of a problem left if things go well.

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Originally posted by chimera66 but whatever i wouldn't go around and kill people with machetes or burn them in a church.

the problem is that not all africans are like you. looks like most people in those lands think chopping off limbs and burning people alive is just another day

I'm in Amsterdam right now, and all 4 of the news stations on TV are covering Kenya and mostly just Kenya.

I imagine when I get back to Toronto I will probably barely hear about it. I'm sure if there was as much coverage about it on TV in North America as in Europe through the media people would be more aware of it.

The president that was elected is pretty sketchy looking. Honestly, if 1 million people are gathering Thursday to 'cause problems, I'd think the president would do something, stand down, recast votes etc instead of putting a ban on the gathering and authorizing military to pretty much do whatever they want. The problem will not end until the President wakes up from his make-believe world or someone does to him what they did the pakistani president.

doh

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Originally posted by Toye I'm in Amsterdam right now, and all 4 of the news stations on TV are covering Kenya and mostly just Kenya. I imagine when I get back to Toronto I will probably barely hear about it. I'm sure if there was as much coverage about it on TV in North America as in Europe through the media people would be more aware of it. The president that was elected is pretty sketchy looking. Honestly, if 1 million people are gathering Thursday to 'cause problems, I'd think the president would do something, stand down, recast votes etc instead of putting a ban on the gathering and authorizing military to pretty much do whatever they want. The problem will not end until the President wakes up from his make-believe world or someone does to him what they did the pakistani president.

imo he is pretty sketchy especially after passing that law last year that didn't allow corrupt people in the government to be investigated from some time period...

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

I actually met Raila Odinga and his son a few times just about 2 months ago.

They were nice, but their reason for being in Colorado was escape or hiding, no doubt.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I actually met Raila Odinga and his son a few times just about 2 months ago. They were nice, but their reason for being in Colorado was escape or hiding, no doubt.

maybe he was hiding his stolen money in the US...don't trust african governments

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by chimera66 maybe he was hiding his stolen money in the US...don't trust african governments

Oh, they sent me an e-mail too!

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from ghana? are they asking you for money. sketchy bastards.

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by chimera66 from ghana? are they asking you for money. sketchy bastards.

No, from Nigeria. They've got millions already, and I can have some of it if I help them

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Originally posted by Lira No, from Nigeria. They've got millions already, and I can have some of it if I help them

Sounds legit to me!

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down