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Originally posted by DJ Shibby You don't have to volunteer necessarily. Just smile and be kind and don't judge people until you know them, it goes a long way. I'm sure you do all these things anyway, or at least that would be my guess. ^_^

Jeebus knows I try.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Jeebus knows I try.

So you are not a nice person huh?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru So you are not a nice person huh?

I *think* I'm a nice person, but niceness doesn't always come as naturally as it should when you're tired, stressed, dealing with screaming family, sick and dying patients, and enough paperwork to drown in. I got myself into this with full knowledge of the downside, but it's not always easy to skip from patient to patient humming a happy tune with an ear-to-ear grin on my face.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I *think* I'm a nice person, but niceness doesn't always come as naturally as it should when you're tired, stressed, dealing with screaming family, sick and dying patients, and enough paperwork to drown in. I got myself into this with full knowledge of the downside, but it's not always easy to skip from patient to patient humming a happy tune with an ear-to-ear grin on my face.

In short, you really don't care and you are just making continous excuses to pardon your callous behavior. And the fact that human life means nothing to you and you really are happy to the fact that you can *allow* for people to die and then just say *oh resources are limited adn crap*. People like you should be tried for murder and charged legally.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru In short, you really don't care and you are just making continous excuses to pardon your callous behavior. And the fact that human life means nothing to you and you really are happy to the fact that you can *allow* for people to die and then just say *oh resources are limited adn crap*. People like you should be tried for murder and charged legally.

I honestly no longer feel the need to defend myself from your attacks. You've shown a bias since the first post of this thread and I've been honest and frank, and you still want to believe what you believe. I went into this field because human life does mean very much to me and every day I strive to save and enhance people's health and well being. If it makes you happy to continue your attacks, so be it. I'm sure you'll add another baseless quip after this reply. However, I'll continue working each day to help everyone I see and you can continue your personal attacks against me for doing so.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I honestly no longer feel the need to defend myself from your attacks. You've shown a bias since the first post of this thread and I've been honest and frank, and you still want to believe what you believe. I went into this field because human life does mean very much to me and every day I strive to save and enhance people's health and well being. If it makes you happy to continue your attacks, so be it. I'm sure you'll add another baseless quip after this reply. However, I'll continue working each day to help everyone I see and you can continue your personal attacks against me for doing so.

sounds acceptable.
But what happens *if* what you want is implemented. Would you be nicer to your patients?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru sounds acceptable. But what happens *if* what you want is implemented. Would you be nicer to your patients?

I am never not nice to my patients. I only said that some days it's harder to be genuinely nice than others, although I believe I always come across as "nice," caring and compassionate. The only time I ever stray from that is if I feel a patient is endangering themselves by being irrational in their decision making. I respect the wishes of a patient, even if I think it is the wrong course of action, if I believe they are well informed and know what the consequences of their decisions are. If their choices don't meet that criteria I may change my demeanor to get the point across. In my judgement that is in the best interest of the patient.

To answer your question; it will not change the daily stresses of the job, but it may lead to greater physician/patient autonomy, less red tape and paperwork and would allow more concentration on the patient and treatment and less on the peripheral clutter. I do think that would make most healthcare workers happy.

USA has a higher homicide rate. Does this graph take that data into account ?

Also doesn't the usa make more efforts to ensuring infants born with certain operable conditions get care where other countries may not perform a surgical intervention and just allow the child to die and do'nt report that information to the WHO. America reports their infant mortality rate.

If our system is so bad, why don't americans go to other countries for healtcare ? Conversely why do so many foreigners come to america to partake in our horrible healthcare system?