Pop music is music designed to be easily accessible, to appeal to large ammounts of people and to be commercially viable. Trance is as pop as it gets.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Bearing in mind this list is ONLY from the UK charts and doesn't take into consideration all the other pop charts around the globe, I think you'd have to be a bit of an idiot to not recognise how commercial trance really is. Paul van Dyk: 28: Paul Van Dyk - For An Angel [Sep 1998] 13: Paul Van Dyk - Another Way / Avenue [Nov 1999] 07: Paul Van Dyk featuring Saint Etienne - Tell Me Why (The Riddle) [May 2000] 15: Paul Van Dyk - We Are Alive [Dec 2000] 14: Paul Van Dyk featuring Hemstock & Jennings Nothing But You [Jul 2003] 28: Paul Van Dyk featuring Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives / Connected [Oct 2003] Ferry Corsten: 14: System F - Out Of The Blue [Apr 1999] 19: System F - Cry [May 2000] 22: Veracocha - Carte Blanche [May 1999] 15: Gouryella - Gouryella [Jul 1999] 27: Gouryella - Walhalla [Dec 1999] 26: Starparty - I'm In Love [Feb 2000] 29: Ferry Corsten - Punk [Jun 2002] 11: Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body Rock [Feb 2004] 40: Ferry Corsten - Fire [Feb 2006] DJ Tiesto: 15: Gouryella - Gouryella [Jul 1999] 27: Gouryella - Walhalla [Dec 1999] 22: DJ Tiesto featuring Kirsty Hawkshaw - Urban Train [Sep 2001] 25: DJ Tiesto - Lethal Industry [Apr 2002] 36: DJ Tiesto featuring Suzanne Palmer - 643 (Love's On Fire) [Jun 2002] 30: Tiesto featuring BT - Love Comes Again [May 2004] 37: Tiesto - Adagio For Strings [Apr 2005] DJ Sammy: 01: DJ Sammy & Yanou featuring Do - Heaven [Nov 2002] 02: DJ Sammy - The Boys Of Summer [Mar 2003] 08: DJ Sammy - Sunlight [Jun 2003] 07: DJ Sammy - Why [Jun 2005] Seriously, if you don't think trance is pop music you're either very deluded or in serious denial.

If you think DJ Sammy is trance then you are the one thats seriously deluded.

Same goes with Fire by Ferry Corsten. Might be made by a trance producer but its a pop song granted. You are using extreme examples that for the most part arnt even trance and Im referring to trance TODAY not 3-4 years ago. So all of your points are left firmly up your arse

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Originally posted by RebeL9 why so upset? I just asked because you made this statement: "To say trance is pop music is idiotic. Pop music is music thats in the charts." And basing it on your statement means that none of those producers I listed are trance music? Why are you contradicting yourself?

You just dont get it do you? What im saying is that trance WAS popular to the masses and could have been deemed pop music 3-4 years ago. The same could hardly be said today. Like I said I havent seen a bonafide proper trance tune thats been in the UK top 40 in at least 3 years.

If you have then you obviously study the charts more than me. Im sure there have been cases with tracks like "fire" and "the anthem" which were never trance tunes in the first place. They are just songs dressed up to bastardise trance.

You are one seriously fucking thick and deluded individual. Don't worry though, you just keep listening to those highly innovative and forward thinking underground trance artists of yours while reaching high for those lasers. You massive twat.

Your taste in music is as impressive as your intellect, which subsequently is no higher than a 5 year old.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg You just dont get it do you? What im saying is that trance WAS popular to the masses and could have been deemed pop music 3-4 years ago. The same could hardly be said today. Like I said I havent seen a bonafide proper trance tune thats been in the UK top 40 in at least 3 years. If you have then you obviously study the charts more than me. Im sure there have been cases with tracks like "fire" and "the anthem" which were never trance tunes in the first place. They are just songs dressed up to bastardise trance.

That's like saying Motown isn't pop music because it's not currently in the charts...

So I think what you're really trying to argue is that the quality of trance has fallen so much that it is no longer new or refreshing, and is henceforth dead as a vibrant genre. Is that what you're trying to argue?

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Originally posted by julien2 Trance is to EDM what Britney Spears is to music. period

well thats ur opinion b/c u just happen to dislike it...doesnt make it so though. britney spears is mainstream garbage pop/R&B.

are u saying thats what trance is in the edm world? again thats just ur opinion.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike You are one seriously fucking thick and deluded individual. Don't worry though, you just keep listening to those highly innovative and forward thinking underground trance artists of yours while reaching high for those lasers. You massive twat. Your taste in music is as impressive as your intellect, which subsequently is no higher than a 5 year old.

I didnt say what I go out and have a dance and a party to was innovative or forward thinking so again WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

The whole reason for the arguement was. Is trance pop music? Well today its NOT. Take Samim - Heater that "groudbreaking" techno anthem from the summer. That made it into the top 20 in the UK now are you saying techno is pop music?

Silly boy

to simplify, pop = popular

one could argue that commercial success puts certain music into the pop category.

I suppose it comes down to where you set your boundaries on what is and what isn't pop. In that way, both sides have a valid argument. It's all subjective anyway, as it usually is when genre classification is involved.

I'm in agreement with Mikey and co. Those tracks, and they are indeed trance by technical definition, fall in the realm of commercial popular dance/trance.

It doesn't change the fact that I love my Gouryella (or any other of those tracks), and discluding the vocal pop version Ligaya is a brilliant tune.

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Originally posted by julien2 Trance is to EDM what Britney Spears is to music. period

I'd love to hear what you call house then! Paris Hilton?

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Pop music is music designed to be easily accessible, to appeal to large ammounts of people and to be commercially viable. Trance is as pop as it gets.

Thank you for ratifying our suspicions that you haven't a clue what real trance music is.

Last edited by chadi on Jan-16-2008 at 02:16

was there a question (besides 'haan?') to this thread or was it just a nice opening to flame trance?

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