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Originally posted by donnybrasco Never said that, but his culpability is substantial in helping bring about that assumption.

We might have some slight misunderstandings. All you're saying is Saddam "helped" in the belief that he had WMDs? Ok, I'll take that. I still hold the Bush admin 100% responsible for its own blunders.

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You hold up this "critical thinking" argument and your supposed superior knowledge of it, the way Trancer posts endlessly about his "troofer" sites. It doesn't hold water, because applying "critical thinking skills" doesn't always mean that you're going to predict the future just by applying them. Your assertions are absurd.

1. Critical thinking has NOTHING to do with truther sites. It's a basic function of the decision making process. Please explain how this has any relevancy towards conspiracy theories...

2. If you do not apply critical thinking, then how will the executive EVER predict the future based on hollow inferences? Is it so hard just to do a "cause-effect" analysis? These really are elementary concepts. Of course one can be wrong, but how much MORE wrong will they be if they do not carry out a systemic decision making process which is based on rational and logical analysis of the current and past realities.

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Yes, in the end, it has to be theirs. But you'd like to believe that it was done with willful malice...whereas I don't believe that.

Nope, I don't know if it was willful malice. I don't care. What it is is gross incompetence; whether maliced or not is not the issue.

I think we both got our points across...

1. Bush admin is 100% responsible for its own blunders.
2. The West is responsible for Saddam's capability of WMDs.

Always fun to have pages long debates..