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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I'm not sure, but I don't think so. In re Sealed Case, 310 F.3d 717, 742 (Foreign Intel. Surv. Ct. of Rev. 2002) said that: "The Truong court, as did all the other courts to have decided the issue, held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information. It was incumbent upon the court, therefore, to determine the boundaries of that constitutional authority in the case before it. We take for granted that the President does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the President’s constitutional power." I haven't found any ruling that contradicts that.

ouch. well then, is the REAL problem the FBI having a database or a system of government which gives the head of state far too much fucking power? goddamn your system sucks dog's balls!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN ouch. well then, is the REAL problem the FBI having a database or a system of government which gives the head of state far too much fucking power? goddamn your system sucks dog's balls!

Australia doesn't have a similar program only because they don't have the technology to do it if they wanted to by mandate from the head kangaroo.


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Originally posted by smokeape Australia doesn't have a similar program only because they don't have the technology to do it if they wanted to by mandate from the head kangaroo. [[[smoke]]]

im talking about system(s) of government not the program per se you ignorant fool.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im talking about system(s) of government not the program per se you ignorant fool.

Are you still stealing aboriginal children from their mothers and giving them foster homes with white parents to be abused and delineate the race or did you give that up recently?


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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles ...Read some history. The judicial branch has historically been reticent to limit executive power, especially during wartime. In some instances they have specifically neglected to deal with what they consider political questions in areas like international relations and how to prosecute wars.

Maybe that's because given the sensitive nature of Intelligence, and the fact that we're at war, it causes the Judiciary to favor the people who are looking out for our best interest...which is also in the interest of national security?

And this article and topic has nothing to do with war anyway. So why are you bringing it up? Running out of arguments? lol

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Originally posted by smokeape Are you still stealing aboriginal children from their mothers and giving them foster homes with white parents to be abused and delineate the race or did you give that up recently? [[[smoke]]]

your point being? you think i give two shits about what my govt did before i was born?

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Most countries seem to have a really shitty history of slavery.

It's exactly why things like surveillance and soft totalitarianism are utilized anymore, as they are more effective. Encourage people not to care, and trade in their personal freedoms for the illusion of safety, provide incentive for them to put utter faith in their system, and you have no dirty laundry to take out. No horrible, bloody events for the history books. No stains on the legacy of a supposed "Great" nation, and you can make people do whatever you want them to.

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Originally posted by smokeape Are you still stealing aboriginal children from their mothers and giving them foster homes with white parents to be abused and delineate the race or did you give that up recently? [[[smoke]]]

No, that was back in your generation.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On soft totalitarianism

now, what on earth is THAT supposed to mean? i am unaware of quasi totalitarianism

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Maybe that's because given the sensitive nature of Intelligence, and the fact that we're at war, it causes the Judiciary to favor the people who are looking out for our best interest...which is also in the interest of national security? And this article and topic has nothing to do with war anyway. So why are you bringing it up? Running out of arguments? lol

But the topic has everything to do with war. "National security" is one of the most frequent excuses that executives use to seize more power.