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Originally posted by Ian Doesn't that make you the same kind of person that you hate on, or is there some sort of exception to the rule that allows you to be suck a jackass ?

*such a jackass

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Originally posted by kamil *such a jackass

thank you I have a super shitty cheap keyboard at the moment whilst I save for the laser desktop kit I want

Who is Premier Bush?

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Originally posted by Project-K Yes and that it's considered liberal is a very, very sad thing.

To you "liberal" probably means "Communism".

Honestly though, CNN trying to cover up for Bush? Never saw this coming.

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Originally posted by RJT Needs moar Bush chops:

Damn dude, Bush is stacked.

Bet he has a banging ass too.

Fuck Bush. I can't believe some people here think its not justified. He's spent the last 8 years completely ignoring to serve the American people. That is amazing and wonderful, def tops Colbert's roasting of him at the press dinner.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis Fuck Bush. I can't believe some people here think its not justified. He's spent the last 8 years completely ignoring to serve the American people. That is amazing and wonderful, def tops Colbert's roasting of him at the press dinner.

+1,000,000

i would have boo'd...

my thought process would likely have been:

"if i dont boo now, he'll think we like him... *pause* BOOO!!!"

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Originally posted by Lira I don't know if my reasons for respecting a president are the same as Lebez's but, these are my arguments:

They aren't exactly, but I can understand those as well. Mine have more to do with the context for three reasons. The first is that Bush was merely acting in accordance with his office. The second is that he was invited to be there and didn't force his presence upon anyone. And the third is that the whole thing was supposed to have been a celebration of opening day of the national past-time, not some political statement made by a few hundred tourists. I mean, the boos started within fifteen seconds of the end of the national anthem, and while the color guard was still on the field.

The President of the United States was INVITED by Major League Baseball to throw out the first pitch to celebrate the opening of a new stadium in DC. Not George W. Bush. The office was invited. Bush is merely the present holder of that office - a contemporary figurehead for the same office that has been invited to throw out the first pitch since FDR. And for the first time ever, that event was met with public disdain.

I would be one of the first to argue that 3/4 of the Bush agenda has been misguided and wrong. And I would give him an earful in the proper context. But I'm able to put that aside given certain circumstances and respect the man chosen by a majority of voters to serve in the highest elected position in the land as he throws out the ceremonial first pitch at a baseball game. I may not agree with the policies he pursues, but I can respect that he was put there and that he acts in what he believes is the best interest of the country (however misguided he may be in believing so). To boo him was (no pun intended) bush league.

The very first thing I thought of when I heard the booing was this:


You don't have to agree with the person acting as President of the United States to give the office a little respect. After all, as Lira pointed out, the American people put him there to best serve our own interests. If we feel those interests have not been served, we need to show up and vote. Booing isn't going to deter him. Losing an election will.

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Ah, I see the difference here:

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I can respect that he was put there and that he acts in what he believes is the best interest of the country (however misguided he may be in believing so).

I do not believe the above for even a minute, nor do I feel compelled to respect the office when I feel those serving in it are acting as disgraceful and immorally as those in the Bush administration.

It isn't just the one man - it's all that his administration represents. It has destroyed any measure of respect I'd have given him even as a courtesy.

How does that old chestnut go again? "Respect is a privilege, not a right", or was it that "respect is earned, not given"?

Something like that. Either way, he and the office he represents do not have mine.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles How will it "not do any good?" If blame for bad outcomes can be placed on people who represent their constituency, that will lessen their chances of being re-elected (this is irrelevant in the specific case of Bush because of presidential term limits, but it is relevant when applied to the Republican party as a whole, which in many cases has stood by some of Bush's worst policy decisions).

Isn't McCain himself claiming that he's not like Bush?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I think that booing gives the impression that people disapprove of the way the representative is conducting himself; and that impression is a correct one. The booing is actually an acknowledgment that he is important in some way; they wouldn't boo some random unheard-of jerk.

Don't crappy artists get booed without being important?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Any American leaders who do a better job.

And can these leaders deal with other countries while Bush is in office?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Probably not, although if he cared more about whether people approved of the job he was doing, all the booing might cause him to doubt his course of action, which would be a good thing.

Even in that case, wasn't this criticism a tad bit too late?

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Originally posted by Arbiter If Bush can't earn the respect of his own people, much less the rest of the world, then perhaps he should end the façade that can represent the people of the United States by tendering his resignation.

Oh, that would be great. As a matter of fact, if it depended on the rest of the world, John Kerry would've been elected in 2004 probably...

But, that was 4 years ago. If Bush stepped down now, and all his supporters miraculously decided to follow him, would it really make any difference? The elections are just around the corner, and the instability caused by this situation would probably do more harm than good now.

So, now that you guys elected him, and failed to impeach him until now, just let him go and forget about his existence. Your economy doesn't need any more drama.

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