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jerZ07002
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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Oh really? Thank you! Glad I didnt make an obviously poor life decision... TA to the rescue.


i must be missing something here. if it's so obvious why the hell would you say you were going to law school not to be a lawyer.

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Ang ' ela_ie
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quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
i must be missing something here. if it's so obvious why the hell would you say you were going to law school not to be a lawyer.


Think outside the box.


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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
i must be missing something here. if it's so obvious why the hell would you say you were going to law school not to be a lawyer.


you went to a whorehouse, but we didn't call you a whore. go figure.

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gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by tubularbills
wouldn't liking what you do entail those aroudn you?

say you liked the physical work you were doing, but you had 20 people around you that were sucky, and you couldn't get away from them....

you can ask the same thing about location too. would you rather have a job where the location sucks, but you like what you do/people you work with? or have a job in a sweet location, but hate going to work everyday/people that are there.

Liking WHAT you do, as in the nature of your job, does not entail those around you. Those around you would be part of the environment. You can love your job, and hate your environment. I did at my old job. I loved my job, but a lot of the people in my environment at work, were fucking idiots.


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Arbiter
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Value or "worth" is not inherent to anything -- rather, we assign things value subjectively. From this we can see that a job is "worthwhile" if the value we place on everything gained through participation in a job as an aggregate outweighs the value we place on the time invested in that job.

Since value in this sense is entirely personal and unfixed, we would obviously expect that different aspects of jobs (e.g. pay, people, satisfaction, et cetera) might be weighted differently for different people, or even the same person at different times. I do think however that there are a few generalities that we can state with some confidence:

1. The number of people who would consider their job worthwhile if it did not pay at all are very few.
2. Most people would prefer a job working with people with whom they got along much better, if other differences were minimal.

These are, of course, not the only aspects of a job that we might place value in. For instance, I did my last job primarily for access to funds, facilities, and information that allowed me to perform research and development that will help me achieve future goals. Secondary benefits included good pay and the opportunity to network with influential individuals. I can't honestly say that a desire to form personal relationships with my co-workers really played any role at all. I would have to say that I had a very low opinion of almost everyone I met during my tenure at the company, but it did not really decrease my job satisfaction, probably because the nature of my position allowed me to moderate the extent of my interaction with other people there.

I suspect that one might draw all sorts of inferences about what types of positions tend to attract persons with particular tendencies with respect to how they assign value. For example, individuals working in the non-profit sector are probably more likely to consider their job worthwhile in part because of satisfaction that they are doing something good, and individuals working in high-paying jobs are probably more likely to consider their job worthwhile primarily on the basis of the level of remuneration that they receive. Neither of those, if true, is likely to surprise anyone.

Anyway, to try to answer the question with respect to my own point of view...

I find that most people are basically the same in the respects that are relevant to how much I can stand to be around them. So it is not really practical for me to choose a job because of the "people." I am left with differences in potential earnings, and while material wealth is not terribly important to me, it is certainly a consideration. On the other hand, in the unrealistic scenario where I found myself in a position where I had amazing co-workers and satisfactory pay, I would probably prefer to remain in that situation rather than work elsewhere and earn a higher rate of pay -- but if the pay were beneath a certain baseline, then the situation would be reversed. I suppose it is fair to say that money is my primary motivation for working, but there are substantially diminishing returns on how much I value "more money" beyond a certain point. This is all assuming, of course, that these are the only two variables in the equation. In the real world, many other factors would affect my preference between different jobs as well.

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Lilith
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A lot of people I've spoken too over the years in business (doing management coaching, sales training) have the usual set of things the like about working, but ultimately out of their priorities when asked about "what makes a good job", decent money always comes in at least top 3 in their lists.

I'll also add that people who are placing a high priority on their co-workers will often find that level of 'love' not reciprocated in terms of not always being their job priority. By all means, work as a team, some after work drinkies and what ever to make yourselves at least bearable while you do work together.
But ultimately when you get home, by yourself or with your family- that's who you toil for.
That should be who you work for, not your workmates. Comes down to the bare bones reality of having to pick between themselves, their family, the job and you, they'll look after themselves and then you'll have what?
Nothing.

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Floorfiller
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I have my little group of coworkers I eat lunch with and all of that. It's nice to have a group. I'd hate to be completely alone at work for sure.

I am there for money though. I never really plan outside work stuff with my work friends, with the exception of one person.

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DJ Mikey Mike
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Money. Or more specifically, money and power.

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elFreak
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being able to make a good living doing something that is fulfilling in one way or another is waaaaay more important than who you work with to me. I have friends...if i make more well good, but its not what i look for in a job.

there is alot of bullshit that occurs in the workplace in terms of how people are with you to you and when you are not around. I am always polite and "nice" to my employees, but sometimes the good cheer is nothing but ass kissing.


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Domesticated
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
how are you meeting millionaires? besides my bosses, who are probably millionaires, the only other millionaire i've knowingly met is larry silverstein, and that was because he was doing a presentation at my school.


There's literally millions of millionaires in the world.

You don't have to own a yacht to be a millionaire; ownership of a live-in property and a holiday house will probably do.

You don't know one person who owns a property worth more than a million?


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Money. Or more specifically, money and power.




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