Make a track stop talking about it.

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There's some good advice in here for you mate. As others have said get the basics down donw worry about tweaking everything to start with. Then later move through the track and make changes.

I guess everyone works different. Ive had that problem in the past I still do from time to time, I need to change my work flow. Ive been working on a bassline for a track for to long now on a my current track. I guess you have to make yourself work differently and if you sway towards this keep forcing yourself not too.

I think that many of the ones who have problems finnishing a song (Including myself) have to high demands on theire productions. I have been near a nervous breakdown many times because I cant get my songs to sound "proffessional", and I think that it have ruined my creativity and probably several songs that would have turned out really nice.

I think its far better to start making perfect songs then lay all concentration on making a perfect mix if you know what I mean.

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Originally posted by Dreamtea I think that many of the ones who have problems finnishing a song (Including myself) have to high demands on theire productions. I have been near a nervous breakdown many times because I cant get my songs to sound "proffessional", and I think that it have ruined my creativity and probably several songs that would have turned out really nice. I think its far better to start making perfect songs then lay all concentration on making a perfect mix if you know what I mean.

Totally the same thing over here!
And I am also trying to get my vocals to the track...
So trying to get professional vocals by home "studio" is..well...difficult

But now I am starting to give me a break and thinking "hell, just do a track, worry about the perfect sounds and levels later...". Or I will end up having HUGE mount of great loops, short melodies... but not one finished song...

Indeed, get tracks done regardless. As time goes on your standard will improve anyway.

I used to do that: centering myself in the secondary things before centering in the song/theme/track itself. Then, I realized that wasn't the way.

Sometimes we tend to forget which are the central things (not only in music, but in life as well ).

I think this is a very interesting thread, I really enjoyed reading this one.

- I start with kick and bass like most do, then add some percussion, next I add some sounds, synthlines, melodies, pads etc. I dont care about the arrangement at that point.
- I build up the climax of the track first with the maximum amount of drive and many different elements playing at once. If I didnt save yet, I save that first stage of the track.
- Also I bounce any synth to wav. Most of the time a 16 bar thing.
- I start arranging stuff, build up and build down the track from that climax.
- Now I work on any section in detail, use my synthline wavs and maybe create some new ones.
- process a sound, and save it. repeat as often as you like. Its been probably the most useful hint I've ever gotten (for example the famous DnB producers Noisia use this technique).
- My idea when making sounds, since I come from the psy department so I am looking for really weird Sci-Fi sounds, is to fuck them up with as many FX as possible. This means I process a synthline I rendered before through a shitload of FX, slice and cut it up, and render again. Bouncing to wav is an important part of my working process, not only to save cpu load, but also to give me new inspiration. I have a lot of samples from previous tracks I load in my new tracks so I can mess around with them until they sound like something totally different.
- So I arrange the sounds for every part from intro to outro in detail. Having a lot of versions originating from the same sound, but all processed in a different way ensures I have variation in my sounds. Probably enough to ensure its enough to keep a track of at least 7 minute length interesting.
- In the end I add some FX, try to make some good transitions etc.
- During the whole process I try to save as often as possible, so if I made a kickass sound I deleted later on, I can just go back to the stage where that piece was included. So I guess a good general advice would be to save as often as possible, either a wav or the whole project file.

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Originally posted by cybernetica

Sweet thanks for your advice, i really liked the idea of rendering to wavs i am going to start that probably. I think it will let me focus on all the sounds instead of endlessly tweaking one. And then when the song is done maybe do some minor tweaks. Once again thank you.

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I make many saves also but, with the date next to the filename every time, so you can go back to a certain time period in that track.

i would assume most people keep a library of their sounds, something i'm not really that great at. i always just start making new sounds from scratch. but its something that i think i really should start making a conscious effort towards.

how does everyone organize their stuff?

Is there a way to save into wav a sound in FL Studio? Or I just have to do it "manually"?